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sustaining is not even visible because everything dies quickly

If that is the case, class is not suitable for your raid, we do not plan to change this class back.

There was no such problem before in a very similar raid formation. But if you believe that this class should be selected for special combinations with weaker ones so that it performs better compared to others, then okay. I always thought that balance meant bringing the classes closer to a similar level, but I may be wrong looking at the recent changes.

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The combination now deals less damage both to a single target and to multiple targets.

Change was never intending to boost your area damage burst. It is more about increasing area sustain. We do not plan to boost area boost back but sustain will be increased further.

I tested S/D on DC yesterday - the change is very noticeable, and sustaining is not even visible because everything dies quickly. Previously, as I mentioned, I was able to compete with players using other combinations and much weaker gear, but now you've taken that away. While Mag and Warlock now deal less damage (in my opinion, it was also a big exaggeration to nerf all class combinations), other combinations are now unreachable. Another issue is S/K - can you let us know if you'll give this combination the ability to tank or will you just take away another combination from our gear (we currently have the least number of combinations we can play with)? S/WL - are you planning to revamp this combination so that we can play with physical gear? And one last thing, for S/WD - please remove the limit of 30 hits from the skill with a 2-second cooldown. It probably won't suddenly make this combination competitive with others, but at least it will slightly improve the performance of this combination, which currently doesn't perform well on both AOE (against many stronger classes) and single targets.

I agree, once it has over 80% reduction in opponent's accuracy, stuns, and many skills that reduce damage. Thanks to this build, it will be very good in PvP, but the damage itself won't be astronomical, rather it will perform average in PvE. Overall, another combination to be set aside after an ill-conceived overhaul. (From this server, we probably won't be able to fully enjoy PvP arena battles or engage in epic wars for a while - there are simply not enough people yet.

I test tested the B/S combination and believes that the developers have killed it. The combination now deals less damage both to a single target and to multiple targets. Im used to be able to deal significant damage to 20 mobs in IDK, but now, even with full gear, they can't keep up with players with lower-tier gear and fewer cards. The main skill also has a longer cast time and deals significantly less damage than before, making the combination unplayable. I suggests that the change was not well thought out and has turned the combination into something that is not viable for gameplay. The author also tested the S/D combination and believes that it has been nerfed to a point where it is no longer exceptional compared to other combinations. I suggests that the developers should undo the changes until they introduce a new skill, as the nerf does not make sense without a new skill. Finally, I points out that most players who play as scouts do not agree with the nerfs and have not received an explanation from the developers.

The author tested the B/S combination for a while and unfortunately, as they previously mentioned in another thread, the combination has been killed. Currently, it doesn't deal enough damage to a single target or to multiple targets. They argue that around 20 mobs in IDK were noticeably affected by this combination before, but now, even with full power, they can't catch up with a player who has two or three tiers lower equipment, weapon, and significantly fewer cards. They also mention that the main skill's long cast time doesn't deal damage like before, and it now only deals damage three times but much weaker than before, which also blocks their 25% damage buff. Overall, it's a disaster, an unreasoned change that turned a decent combination into another useless combination for leather equipment. They urge for a quick change because such unexplained changes make the game unenjoyable to play.

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It seems if you ask Lutine , Scouts are just fine not need anything to change, only s/k to be tank ,all others is just great ....... maybe even nerf right Lutine ?

I am not expressing my opinion on the S/R combination because I rarely play it, really rarely, but it's because I don't like its mechanics. I rely on the knowledge of other players who play this combination more often. I don't think that Lutin wants to nerf or forcibly weaken any combination.

Regarding the changes to the Scout class:

S/WL - I would like it to have a similar mechanic to S/M, where I play as a physical DPS. I'm not blaming, but it's hard not to notice that leather armor doesn't have the possibility to play as a mage or warlock, while magic classes have two connections with leather. Therefore, allowing S/WL to have a physical connection would be a nice gesture towards Scouts.

S/M - Still needs balancing, I'm not talking about weakening MDPS, but about slight adjustments to physical scout/mage.

S/B - I would leave it unchanged, as it works well as support and is also capable of dealing moderate damage.

S/P - I suggest reworking it into a typical DPS, it could even be a second Scout drawing damage from an element, such as water. Currently, no one plays S/P due to the nerfs and S/B leaving the game.

"I wouldn't want S/K to be a tank, there are many tank combinations to take away from leather armor - which already has the least combinations among the DPS classes. I would see S/K as a crossbowman to make more use of the crossbow, the bow has a lot of combinations while the crossbow and pistol have only one useful one. That's why a crossbowman who has a long cast time for skills but has powerful and very accurate shots could be a good fit, and the cooldown between skills could also be extended for "loading shots"."

S/Ch needs some changes, and I would start with the most annoying one, which is the joint strike. I would increase its range from 50 to at least 160.

"S/W seems to be fine and I wouldn't change it. As for S/D, I haven't tested it after the changes yet, but I don't think it will need any modifications."

"S/R - I get annoyed with buffing using offensive skills, I definitely prefer passive skills with a specific cooldown so I can go into battle with full power from the first shot. But I would leave that to more advanced players on this combo C... :)"

Bard/Scout

• Changed Archer Rune to be triggered only with single target skills, changed triggered attack to be Soul Gale spell instead.

You understand that B/S was only strong because it could hit an AOE once every 3 minutes and make up for what other classes lack in instances. It doesn't perform phenomenally on a single target, and now the only AOE skill won't work as it should. B/S, in my opinion, should have a shorter cast time for skills, and you're not taking away the mechanics that allowed it to catch up with the rest of the raid (because it also needed a large number of opponents in the range of the skill). Super change, certainly much needed and justified - not just silence.

I see that the people responsible for character balance carefully read the forum and analyze it with what they want to do, s/d nerf even though it did not perform exceptionally well on equal gear and buffs compared to several classes that are currently not being touched, still having weak combinations of the rest of the connections of Scout and several completely unplayed connections. And of course, changes without justification. Once again, you only confirm that balance is a bit of a challenge for you

Yes, if the buff comes in right away, it will make sense as well as interesting mechanics

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He'll make a joke.

You go k/wl and then the nerf scout S/D! xD

what you mean?

The bug is existent and can be proven.

Btw: S/D is not really a nerf just change dmg for attack speed and all scouts gets a push up to 15% -> what else you want? :O

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I didn't say that something is wrong, you just misunderstood my English. I meant that it makes the s/d hit harder and then get nerfed. As for the change from speed to dmg, in a normal flight the fact only loses the physical attack (you know how s / d works so I won't explain it) it does not lose, but it will be very noticeable on full fire.

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Hello,

regarding Warden/Knight

the elite skill with ID 1490660 provides an additional buff if you click skill ID 1490859 (Heart of the Oak).

The additional buff is the buff ID 1502600 and should let you hit 10 times with offensive spells that ignore the targets defense.

I observed several bugs

- the skill also triggers with white hits

- the skill also triggers with passive hits like "Briar Shield"

- MOST IMPORTANT: The Skill triggers also for other ppls skill! As I saw only for pdps players. We did IDK and had 1 scout/druid in group and he snitched my stacks and did way more damage and ignored the defense of the mobs. We tested it several times in the instance and always as I clicked "Heart of the Oak" than the scouts dmg boosted very much and I observed loosing my buff without doing anything

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He'll make a joke.

You go k/wl and then the nerf scout S/D! xD

Scout/Druid

Increased Archer’s Agility attack speed to 15% from 8%.

Reduced Boiling Blood damage gain to 18% from 26.5%.

Can you explain to me where this change came from? Currently, this is the only connection on which I am able to compete with the best connections of other classes, despite the advantage in the eq tier and card values. After taking the damage, he will start to stand out a lot on maximum fire - by taking damage, you also take away the physical attack on this connection. Currently, there is a problem when you go to measure e.g. wl/s or m/s, I think that there are many other connections with which it is impossible to compete in general. When it comes to why this connection is most often chosen by players - the answer is simple, because it compares very well to other scout connections. The weakening of leather connections currently does not make sense because they are average compared to other cash registers. You have to catch up with the tier of weapons and eq. You want to encourage the game with other scout combinations, then finally rebuild s/k, s/p, buff the already forgotten s/wd, and s/ch. Tweak the s/r buff mechanics a bit and there will be different scout combos right away. (I won't mention the rogues because it's generally bad there, b / s also needs a change.

I have a small request for increased damage on s/wd and s/ch. Currently they are the weakest scout combos (not counting s/k which is unplayable)

I have some ideas for some classes:

R/B - skill 1491233 in addition to the physical attack, I would add there additional damage from the wind element 10-15%.

B/R I'd add a skill that removes the rogue's second hand passive damage reduction.

R/P - I would add a skill that increases water damage 8-10%

B/S

I propose to reduce the casting time of the skill "Killer Arrows" ID 1491119 from 1.5 sec to 1.0 sec, additionally I am asking you to reduce the cooldown time of the skill "Windstorms of Souls" ID 1491121 from 15 sec to 12 sec. Greetings

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Scout

• Added new passive: Distant Friend: Increases your damage by up to 15% depending on distance between you and the target.

yes scout/mage need a buff

He is especially weak in magic eq

Hi!

Is it possible to increase the space in the game for created macros? In general, when you play on many connections, you need a little more space for all these extras.

Unused Classes (Leather)

We currently have s/k - s/p - r/k connections that are not playable in any form - buffer/tank/dps. maybe it's worth going back to balance and dealing with such connections.

In addition, after s/wd tests, it turns out that this connection, as well as s/r and s/ch, need a slight buff. Still, s/m with magic eq is much better than in physical, not only that s/m (magic) is the strongest combination of the scout.

Greetings

B/Ch

Hello! After testing, I still think that this connection needs a little strengthening. Players with a lower eq (2 tiers down) and with a significant difference in cards on other melds do similar damage as this class. I suggest removing off-hand weapon damage reduction.

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B/R

I have a suggestion to add a skill that changes the skill "Side Weapon Fighting" ID 490146 - Combat will be accurate from now on, no offhand damage reduction.

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I've seen so many times how my guildmates were forced by the game & its "balance" to delete their secondary classes and pick meta ones just to be useful during runs and it hurts me seeing that after so much time this hasn't changed.

Simply not true. Not everyone is playing meta classes, some are even picking the non-meta ones and get really decent damage out of them. Most of them are dependant of other classes or support, but every class is playable. From a MDPS point of view I see only a few classes that are way behind others, like M/Wd, M/D, D/M (if this can be seen as dps) and that's it I guess. On the other hand there are like 20+ playable classes for mdps.

Most dps players in this game want to deal the max damage possible at any cost. That's why you possibly see same classes in random runs. Reality is that most players play the 1 class only that is 2% above another. For dps reason it makes no sense to play a weaker class, at least in most situations.

In our guild runs you constantly see leather players on the same classes, while chain and cloth are switching through the entire number of classes. My personal favorite class is S/Wl. Do you see any S/Wl in other runs? I don't. But its damage is pretty good and there is a huge damage potential in this class. So why does not anyone play it always? Because of instance, gear, skill, buffs, cenedrils, pet, cards, titles, support and all the other reasons why classes deal damage differently. If all classes were the same in all situations, you would not need any balance and stay at the vanilla balancing, which always sucked more balls than a billard table.

And then you see other servers having that exactly same vanilla balancing and people are like "this balancing is so cool, it feels nostalgic" and you think they are all cavemen who are very excited about a light bulb but have never seen the sun... (if ppl like oldschool content, go play nostalgia instances, it's the same look and feel, but just the values of damage, hp, etc are different).

Why balancing was good in the early days of rom? Because the game was naked then. Almost only gear and TP mattered here. Nowadays the game grew up, got a lot of more stuff to calc in.

I always was pretty critical about coa balancing (and still am, since on some classes we're just cycling all over again) but reality is that you find no other server with a more diversified balancing at all.

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I agree. There are a lot of combos that people don't go through that do decent damage. In the skin of B/ch, B/S, most scout calls, or even R/Ch, R/D, are calls that deal quite a lot of damage if someone plays them. Currently, I see the magic finish on wl and in my guild you can see that this class has a lot of potential. It's hard to say what really is the strongest because most things depend on the chosen team.

Hi. I have a problem, during the game every 5-10 minutes the game throws me to the character selection menu ...

I would like to see changes in relationships in the near future so that you can choose a bonus between people in pt.

Craftable PVP equipment.

Hi!

Once again, I will ask you to change the two scout connections S / P and S / K which are still useless. S / P has long been replaced by S / B which deals more damage and has more useful buffs, and S / K I do not know what this combination is so far, because it neither refuel nor buffs about the damage.