Dear Aksi,
I don't know your problem. Yes, the scout is not the op best dps, but scouts are really good.
If you don't know how to play, try to ask others. You can also watch some twitch streams (for example of myself) where players playing scouts.
I also take requests playing a certain leather class combi and stream it via twitch.
Kind regards
Display MoreThe most recent change to heals seems to have brought my heals on D/P even lower. After some testing, I can see that heals are less than half of what they were before any balancing / lass changes with equivalent stats. Here were my findings:
Healing before any balancing / class changes
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Lv 92 Druid (no subclass, no buff)
Healing Power: 22,720 (Gear: 20,200; Set Bonus: 2520)
Magic Damage: 12,297
Wisdom: 11,172
Lv92 Recover: 70-72k non-crit, 175-180k crit, 14.2k HoT
Lv92 Mother Earth's Fountain: 37-39k non-crit, 95.8k-96.8k crit
Healing today
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Lv104 Druid (no subclass, only arcadian patience buff)
Healing Power: 22,880
Magic Damage: 15,577
Wisdom: 30,255
Lv 104 Recover: 20.4k non-crit, 54.1k crit, 7.3k HoT
Lv 104 Mother Earth's Fountain: 8.2k non-crit, 21.9k crit
Essentially, heals have been cut by over 3x from what they were. I think this explains why Kelpi, @Dale Kingston Jr and I are so frustrated with the healing nerfs, as the entire role is quickly becoming unenjoyable.
I understand that there is a need to incentivize healers to upgrade gear as new caps are released, but please reconsider the approach that hurts new players so much. Healers are already at three major disadvantages when starting:
1. No DPS gear (they chose adventurer healing gear) to solo farm with
2. Adventurer gear gives no healing power, and with the stats it gives they can't reliably heal even % ticks on players buffing to 500k+ hp.
3. Stats and gear is tied for most expensive on the server, with the entire "magical dps" category (covering dozens of class combos and playstyles).
Until today, I've strongly felt that all player feedback is listened to (through changes from feedback noted here, item shop suggestions, questions in-game, etc.), but it really felt like Kelpi, Dale and I's concerns seem to have been completely disregarded in the most recent patch and that was really disappointing.
Please reconsider how the healing formula is currently written (logarithmic scaling suggested by melodic seems like a great place to start) and help us understand the goals of healing changes so we can provide useful feedback.
Thank you,
Ravinous
Hi,
without heal bonus on gear (starter gear), you will not heal more/less with healing change, because there is no heal bonus on equip?
If you are a new player, why do you want to heal ppl with 500k+ hp? that sounds like you want to heal endcontent statted players with your starter gear?
Also your healing power, magical damage and wisdom seems very low (starter gear?). Is it buffed or unbuffed?
Buffing as healer now increase healing, same like damage for dps classes.
If your values are unbuffed, try buffing (you should come near 60k wisdom for example)
Even additional 30% chance will result in nearly 100% crit chance. I for myself have ~80% crit in whole rofl.
In my opinion the skill is fine as it is and does not need a change. If you want to use it in combat, rogue/mage would be your choice 
It is a kind of timing to use the skill right before you are in combat and I would love it, that the skill will not changed
Kind regards
I have a suggestion for rogue.
It would be nice if you made it so that the skill "Meticulous preparation" can be used in battle, in any combination of the rogue.
Please no. that will result in 100% krit on every hit. As it is now, it make sense that you can use it only out of combat.
100% krit will result in too much damage, especially in new instances
Display MoreScout - Champion
Recommendations for scout champ.
autoshot: range should be increased.
piercing arrow: range should be increased.
reflected shot: casting time should be removed.
Rain of Vengeance: range should be increased and removed at casting time.
Shot: Cooldown must be 1 second.
Sniper: Cooldown must be 15 second and Casting time should be removed. and the damage should be increased, but not 3 damage, but only one damage. (scout-druid etc)
Fatal Shot: Casting time should be removed
Combo Shot: Casting time should be removed
These are the shortcomings I see in terms of balance and preference of class.
Hi,
in my opinion the Snipe is fine with it's CD and damage as it is now. Also the Combo Shot is totally fine. The Combo Shot of every scout is a channel cast.
But additionally I thought about of some kind of champion mechanic with it's rune impulse.
The Autoshot should stack a buff which can be used to make Reflected Shot, Fatal Shot, Snipe and Rain of Vengeance to an instant. Or in other words -> makes all casts to instant skills, like every champion have with auto attacks. These changes could increase the playstyle and makes it a bit more viable.
But please, change the incoming damage increasement of blood arrow to something else. Some classes cannot be used if you are one-shot by "flowers" in rofl 
Kind regards
Hi,
I can understand your point of view. I already had the same opinion at the official server about "instances lasts too long", but I realized, that newer player and player, which are playing only 2-3 days a week need the time to catch up.
Yes, for the daily high end grinder it is very boring. Since the class balancing and hard pushes of classes it is more boring, because RofL feels like a hack and slash game. I know that they will not more than half every dps damage ^^.
But maybe for the daily high end grinder it is a possible way, if they would implemented an instance mode harder than hardmode, like I wish in an other thread.
That could motivate more, if it is really really hard and based on ultimate gear for example. I don't know whether this would be better for our motivation or not, but I totally can understand your point of view. Image RofL lasts for more than 1 year from now on with the same difficulty o.o
Kind regards
Few comments re ch/s:
6) Crippling Shot - I wonder if you could consider making it 2s cast instead of 0.5, to offset perhaps increase cd to 10-12 s - that way would work somewhat similar to snipe - would be nice
Atm 0.5 s cast is not that useful
-Thanks for all the workRakot
Hi,
Snipe of Scout has no cast multiplier.
If Crippling Shot will get one, pls consider changing Snipe with cast multiplier too, because without guitar it make no sense to use Snipe atm
Kind regards
It was just a hint. Wait for fix (it is still said that it will be fixed) or use other addons
or take a break
Fine for you
but not everyone can code own addons for all stuff. you can use your own ones i cant
some can repalced but u still ned to make settings new and so one. Like i said i never had any probelms with this addon.
And the way u talking is kinda disrespectful
AHHHHH now i see ty Kalypso dont saw this
Display More(...) because we have our own addons for UI or something else.
(...) Why are ppl totally relying on ONE addon? you can even play this game without any.
Perfect example for double standard
Also people, that were using AU will be pissed, for what was taken from them.
And there are alot of ppl. In the end it could be huge own goal.
I did not said all is customized by me. 95% is used from curse. official runes addons I used since years.
And sorry, but the disrespectful person here is you Mela. read your text and read between the lines...
And look here Priest & Druid
You can see in my streams that I use totally standard interfaces. Some ppl using SlimUI, some ikarus dont know the addons or what they do. I just heard of them and they are NOT written by me or some guild mates.... "we have our own addons" is just said that we don't use AU. we use other addons.... this topic is kinda...
Again. There are (i hope) a lot of players (not in my guild) who haven't any problem playing without AU the next time (and if you didn't got it, it will be repaired at any time)
(i dont care in stuff like Math event most guild ( see Sâcrêd ) have for this stuff own one
oh boy^^.
I have own/custom/curse addons for all your things you've written, not only math. And with less than 1/3 of the size of AU. just my opinion and my choice to use my own code. You can use AU, but you need to live with problems, if there are some, like me if there are some issues on my addons.
I don't know the problem to use all addons as separate. Sure for you now, it is a problem. But think about you've done this at the beginning of coa. That's why some ppl here are laughing about some problems and some ppl are helpless now. Even if there is only 1 little bug in AU, you cannot fix yourself because you don't have the code. That is in my opinion not a good decision. #opensourcesoftware
P.S. and Kalypso (Pulse, your guild) seems to not use AU too. So it is playable for minimum 1 of your guild mate. maybe ask him/her
Display MoreDon't take me wrong, I imagine you guys had your thoughts when you disabled it, and i really hope for the sake of the server isn't the one you just said. Right now you publicly admited that you guys prefer 1 random person who join the server for the first time (and ofc by magic that newbie will want to download au, cose every newbie do that on their first hour of game, ???) that all the hundreds of players who relay on it to play this game.
If the reason you give would be the real one, couldn't you just do a warning on the download of the addon? Stop the downloads until is fixed?
Extended Action Bar, for example, caused a 70% perma fps drop and noone warned about it. Wtb, isn't disabled, you can use it on your own getting terrible experiences.
Imho you really should think more on your current players next time you wan't to do something like this.
Regards, Madoxx.
Thx, but pls don't tell totally wrong things.
Not every newbie is installing AU at first. As my guild switched to CoA, we didn't heard about it, because we have our own addons for UI or something else.
So why should every newbie install AU at first? I saw in last days many ppl crying because AU does not work. Why are ppl totally relying on ONE addon? you can even play this game without any.
P.S. Addon writer are also ppl with more or less time. So if you totally rely on an addon and it does not work anymore -> your problem, or fix it yourself. Just my opinion. That's why I have nearly 100% standard interface^^
Scout/Champion
thx for changing some quality of gameplay things. few test at dummies let me hope, that this class don't have an annoying playstyle anymore
One missing change I would suggest: Reducing Shot CD to fix 1 second would be good. Right now I could not tell other players, when they should use Shot to stack the buff, because it needs ~18 seconds to fully stack it.
Kind regards
Regarding
Would you consider to change Shot doing range weapon dps?
Right now it is doing main hand weapon dps and the change for range damage is kinda useless.
Kind regards
Let us test this. Right now it seems that only heal over time effects are drastically reduced, while all other heal output seems to be nearly same like before. We'll see later
Tell me when rogues didn't got any patk from str. It was always like it is now. Sorry but... you are just trolling here
Yeah should be is correct , would like it that way too . Sadly 3x Str and 3xDexterity is both superior for scouts and rouges cause of the Patk gain .
Greetings
but rogue skills hit with dex. example champ, warden, warrior do they use dex to attack? no because hitting skills with str. only scout and rogue use str stated to attack.this is wrong and should be corrected. so balance is necessary but a real and fair balance is required.
Regards always.
Hey,
hmm if I play rogue, I can even use my skills with 0 dex. So I don't need dex to use my skills. As someone said here. 3 str/str and 3 dex/dex is best for scout and rogue. If you don't know how the dex multiplier on your skills work, learn it, test it or ask someone.
But don't try to some obvious bullshit.
If you want a change, because you statted "wrong" or your own way, it's your problem. Or can I ask for wis multiplier for rogues because I want to play rogue with wisdom? Would be funny for players and devs....
Please, learn your class, ask any player who knows the classes you play.
Ty
Display MoreYou want to say that classes with /warlock are mdps because their warlock skills doing magical damage?
Then you are a magical dps too if you play scout.
Your ISS (Hurricane Downpour) is doing magical damage
Edit: And your Mana Drain Shot from Scout is doing magic damage as well
Thank you.
If you continue like this, I think everyone will be a wizard.
I have to wear the wizard kit for Scout Warlock. Classes whose other side class is warlock use their own sets. And you think it's fair. Because you don't care. Why you fantasy tanking rofl with the scout knight
Sorry but this "you have t18 weapon, i dont have mimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimmimimimimimi" is just stupid.
I tanked rofl as scout, with even tank jewellery and my tank sword. If you can't play your class, ask other players.
Why you took the elite skills of Scout/warlock if you don't want to play him as mdps? You could have played scout/warlock as pdps without elite. Your fault I would say.
Your arguments are kinda childish and stupid for me.
So with your arguments, the warlock is a pdps, because the warlock/champ for example have a pdps skill from champion.
This example can you take for mage/priest/druid/yourChoice classes. So all classes are pdps classes. sadly for the "wizards".......
Omur what is your patk unbuffed? Is your gear rofl red and is it stated 3 str str 3 dex dex or 5 dex dex 1sta dex? That might be the reason your damage could be lower than you expected, 3tr str 3dex dex is about 200-300k more patk fully buffed than 5dex dex 1sta dex and that is a ton of damage lost
Actually, when I said balance, I wanted to say everything that is done in classrooms. For example, Scout Warlock wears a mage set and uses the weapon. champ / warlock, Knight Warlock, Warden Warlock use their own sets and weapons but magic hits. our class was gifted to mages.If the champion, knight, warden also had to use the mage set and the weapon, I am sure there would be a serious fight here.
You want to say that classes with /warlock are mdps because their warlock skills doing magical damage?
Then you are a magical dps too if you play scout.
Your ISS (Hurricane Downpour) is doing magical damage Welcome in the club of mdps Omur
Edit: And your Mana Drain Shot from Scout is doing magic damage as well
1 Mage in our group
In my guild is only 1 active main mdps bt. The rest of "magical classes" are supports
Display MoreHello, i want to share a few days i thinking something about ROFL instance,ppl is saying very easy they clear and because of that they want reduce skills of classes so that they want do challange there , ok if you want challange i have an idea lets we speak about that.The name is HELL MODE; first when we enter to ROFL all mobs HP (1.2 kkk) DEF(3 kkk) and when finally meet to First Boss HP is (9 kkk) DEF (9 KKK) , so like this increase bosses hp and def
Second Boss HP (12 kkk) DEF (10 KKK) , Third Boss HP(13 kkk) DEF (11 kkk) ,Forth Boss HP (14 kkk) DEF (13 kkk)and finally LAST BOSS HP (25 kkk) DEF (20 kkk) and every boss damage should be increase little bit also than finally we kill all boss right? drop is also will change bosses drop shard ; 1>10 shard ,2>12 shard,3>13 shard ,4>15 shard,5>20 shard drop and last boss when killed; collec x3 Earth Core, x6 different stat, x5 fragment , x2 sealed weapon and also dont forget to put 20 k Arcadia coins for full clear instance.Thanks, i just share in my mind what i thinking for strong ppl anymore you no need reduce some skills because of really strong just use them at HELL MODE...
Change of HP/Deff is a weak solution. Its only increase of time instance, not difficulty.
Better thing would be to add/replace more difficult tactics (which need a much better equipment and stats, so lower geared ppl couldnt do it). Its in my opinion one of the best options.
Next option would be increased deff + dmg/more strong dots of mobs/bosses. It could stop burning bosses and needed really well equipped tank and healer.
Now even with starting tank eq is possible to tank RoFL, and with 2 healers without wis stats (or just with yellow stats) can heal it easly, what is for me ridiculous.
Regards!
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If the 4th boss lasts really long, the DoT will kill you.
If the last boss lasts really long with more Add phases, the stacks will increase (or last boss starts with several stacks). I want to see someone tanking last boss with 30 stacks ^^. (not kiting, on a harder mode the last boss needs to move faster, that you cannot out-kite it)
For the rest I agree. You can even tank the instance as a scout
Display MoreHi,
I would suggest some changes for Scout/Warrior:
The elite skills lvl 20 (Master of Survival) and lvl 30 (Mental Focus) are not really usefull compared to other classes.I would suggest to change Mental Focus, that it will increase the Strength by 10,4% and change Master of Survival to allow wearing chain gear. This would give more flexibility for players
Kind regards
You mean something like this?
I would recommend this again
what result do you have?
Maybe try /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tostring(GetZoneID()));
Hi,
I tested Scout/Knight again some days ago in RofL and a guild mate asked me, whether I play without sec-class, cause of the usage of my skills
Unfortunately I need to say, that the Scout/Knight does a lot more damage than the Scout/Champ regardings the whole instance. In other words a Scout without a sec-class do more damage than scout/champ or, the scout/champ without elite skills will do more damage than with elite
Don't get me wrong. This class can do good burst damage, but thats all atm. A first good change would be, that the casts with Reflected Shot and Deadly Shot will be changed to instant skills like at all other Scout classes. This will increase the trash damage a minimum, will improve the playstyle and maybe getting more players to test this class.
I also would suggest to change Shot at Scout/Champ to a fix 1 second CD skill, that it can be used as a filler and/or stack buff within 5 seconds instead of 10
Kind Regards
Display MoreRegarding Scout/Warlock...
What about changing the concentration skill (for any scout) which currently lowers focus cost by 50% for 62 seconds with a cd of 5 min.
New effect could be like 2 min cd, lowers focus cost by 50% for 30 seconds. This should be a good filler after dwarven beer ran out and could also be used in trash due to the lower cd.
I don't think other scouts are currently really using this effectively, at least I haven't heard of sustain issues of physical scouts - so this change wouldn't change anything for them
Mentioned skill increase focus regeneration by 50% btw
And scouts don't have many skills which cost focus, that's why pdps scouts haven't such a problem
Kind regards
