Posts by xLutinex

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Yes really. Play warrior/mage or rogue/priest. These classes have mana based spammable skills.

For those, who don't know the ch/wrd, the mana based 5% skill has 15 sec CD and is not spammable. In other words, you need ~ 0,33% mana per second, where other classes can use up to 5-6% per second.

Enlightened Greetings

You get CDR on this skill if you hit something. Bigger pulls reduce this to ~2-3 seconds cooldown, so your calculation is not saying very much. Especially considering that the base mana costs of the skills are massive already.

Not so enlightened Greetings,
Midan

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how often do you have 12-13 mobs in rofl? We are talking about spamming AOE where, for example the r/p, it is also the MAIN dmg skill even with only 2 mobs there.

I would say you don't need to use your skill (and can't use) 600 times in 30 minutes. so your mana usage is way lower comparing with r/p, where you use literally 1500+ times a 5% mana skill.

And skills with 300, 600 or 1200 mana is not high base mana cost. You just need to adjust your character stats, that also as pdps you have 100k+ mana. 1k mana cost of a skill is 1% of 100k manapool.

Edit: so even with average of 5 mobs, you can only use your 5% skill every 10 seconds. Please don't compare with really big mana wasting classes

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As a Warlock, when I'm in Willpower Blade/Construct state, I loose every 2 seconds 1 Psi while doing nothing.

Please don't make my Psi disappear.

Thanks

It is only if you are out of combat

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Yes really. Play warrior/mage or rogue/priest. These classes have mana based spammable skills.

For those, who don't know the ch/wrd, the mana based 5% skill has 15 sec CD and is not spammable. In other words, you need ~ 0,33% mana per second, where other classes can use up to 5-6% per second.

Enlightened Greetings

Hmmm not sure what you guys are talking about now or which points anyone is trying to make...

But i've tested the warrior/mage a lot lately and a warrior/mage sometimes need to use some mana potion now and then.

I use those Phirius ones and in full rofl runs i never need more then 2-4 pots and it never happened that I needed the next pot when it was still on cooldown.

Personaly I think it is cool that resource managing is part of the game, otherwise they should delete mana from the game.

But lets just wait and see how the healer changes will be after they are implemented.

It probably wont be perfect (yet) but I think it still will be awesome.

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The point is, that there are classes, which needs a lot of mana.

Example r/p: In trash phases (or better in situations where you have minimum 2 targets around) you need to use 5% manaskill for maximum dmg output. that results in 60% mana in 12 seconds, which cannot be catched by phirius potions and maybe not anymore by healers.

I don't know how the mana change for r/p will change anything, but in rofl right now, the mobs don't have any mana, so the change of "stealing mana, if target has mana" is kinda joke for r/p in PvE xD and you need to rely on mana support classes

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both statements are not correct. some pdps come above 100k mana and there are even mana based mdps classes, which need to spam percentage mana based skills to do dps.

Greetings

Really? I've played a ton of ch/wd which spams their skill (in trash), 5% each - mana hasn't been much of an issue, even without potting. Please enlighten me on those classes then, lol. I may be wrong.

Yes really. Play warrior/mage or rogue/priest. These classes have mana based spammable skills.

For those, who don't know the ch/wrd, the mana based 5% skill has 15 sec CD and is not spammable. In other words, you need ~ 0,33% mana per second, where other classes can use up to 5-6% per second.

Enlightened Greetings

Quote from MidanLauert

All the mana heavy pDPS do not come above 100k mana and magical dps do not throw their mana around nearly as much as other classes. This alone will keep the skill pretty relevant.

both statements are not correct. some pdps come above 100k mana and there are even mana based mdps classes, which need to spam percentage mana based skills to do dps.

Greetings

Quote from Tashield

Hp buff

20% of healer wisdom

A normal heal has around 200k wis so 40k hp for everyone?

A dps with 500k Life got with old buff 10% when im right so 50k

So everyone gets less Life? Not even think about tanks

And second thing

Wouldnt be a p/s and a d/s one of the best buff classes because of crossbow full of wisdom?

The idea is good but im not really sure if thats the solution

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Not everyone gets less life, because I think HP buffs will buff the 40k HP a bit. But normally nearly none class used hp food. Tanks will get way less, but if you need HP you can use HP potion with 25%

I don't see a problem with HP

P/s and d/s don't have most wisdom btw, if they don't change wisdom buffs of specific class combinations

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I don't see a problem for healers here... Back to gorge times, healers only playing druid/Warden, priest/knight and priest/warlock. Nobody complained about mana and these classes had no mana retention at all and nobody statted wisdom -> less mana regeneration.

Healers need to use buffood soon (ok, just 1 healer in group with max wisdom, if he/she plays d/p or p/d. The other one can still leach), that healers don't full leech anymore

It's bad for ppl who didnt stat full wisdom for more HP/def. They "need" to restat everything, which is kinda bad, because the whole utility of wisdom is not only coupled to heal amount, but also for buffing the raid.

The idea is very great in my opinion, but it is like a mage change where wisdom is giving 2 matk. That would be a big shitstorm here

Quote from Tashield

• Increased Mana Retention cooldown to 120 seconds from 60, changed MP recovery amount to 9980 fixed value from 473 heal power scaling value.

i dont know if this is a good idea

normal healers should have around 1kk mana so this skill would only provide 10% mana (10s x 10k fixed mana = 100k)

--> Every 2 min i get 10% of my mana???!!

I guess it's not supposed to be for healers (more wisdom = more manaregeneration), it is balance scaling for mana reg for dps I guess

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I'm not sure I like that druid/priest and priest/druid can buff dmg and attack. People will always want healers to play one of those 2 combos. Not a good thing imho.

Yea.., you got a point...
I really, really, REALLY LIKE that all those other healer combo's became viable now,

but the buff & debuff potential of one single classcombo: a druid/priest (Buff Damage/Attack power/HitPoints/Magic Defense/Received Healing, Debuff targets: remember seeds?) is huge!!!
Luckely those buff/debuff skills are not exclusive to the druid/priest.

Besides that those buffs & debuffs a druid/priest is also already OP because of the multiple raid wide damage reductions and heals.
(_{nerf druid/priest})

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Increased Savior of Light casting time to 3 seconds from 2, reduced cooldown to 120 seconds from 180, removed damage reduction effect, reduced cooldown reduction amount to 1 second for each heal instead of 3, increased MP cost to 15% from 10%.

greetings

(I'm scared, if we can play big manadrain dps classes anymore soon)

Quote from Madox

I'm not sure I like that druid/priest and priest/druid can buff dmg and attack. People will always want healers to play one of those 2 combos. Not a good thing imho.

About buffing depending on your wisdom, oh wow. We will see how that goes. Big change.

Scary changes but exciting at the same time 🤗

And making 6% wl buff and surge of awareness depending on heal bonus or wisdom too, would make it even more great if those to skills changed to general class skill too

The wl/m supporter need a good heal gear in such case, if none wl/x healer is in raid *.*

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About the new patchnotes...

I'm getting really excited about all those healer changes!!!

I know that those changes will be balanced out in spreaded over a few patches.

But i think the idea's are really cool!!!

GJ Devs & team!

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Yes same here. thx for finally upcoming healer balancing

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After the last nerf on s / wd, it currently lags behind the best classes. I would suggest a slight change to skill ID 494038 from 50% to 55%.

Better revert the change of the s/wd and make the entling offering do 45% dmg. A skill shouldnt be based on luck after 30 stacks. Its a really bad mechanic.

if the change would be reverted, the entling offering needs to be reduced to 25-30%, to be not OP like before

The rogue class has a hide skill. You can see them with scout skill Detection

Hi,

anyone played Rogue/Priest these days? Feels pretty underperforming comparing with for example m/k and s/w. Not to mention how many worlds underperforming comparing with m/r or d/wl or or or xD

Furthermore you need to use mana potions on cd (which is not enough btw...) and need to call for mana every 20 seonds

I guess patience and salvation should give more than 1% each stack. It was nerfed from total 40% damage to now 15%, which is quite too much tbh.

Solution 1: increase patience and salvation dmg to 2% each stack

Solution 2: increase maximum stacksize of patience and salvation to 25-30 (which only can be reached with 40th elite). so you cannot have max dmg all the time

Greetings

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is it now a solution, that you get temporarly banned from login, if you login multiple accounts at the same time? I hope that this is not the ddos solution :O but I was kicked out as I tried to login a 5th account

If you log in immediately to a lot of accounts, it may be recognized as suspicious activity.

It should be a temporary, until we will build own firewall for the COA.

I successfully logged in to 6 accounts, when logging in them one by one.

Please try to do that that way.

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Hmm can it also happen, if I log into all characters of all accounts, to spin the wheel of fortune? Because that is what I do

Edit: and maybe it can happen if I login 3 accounts and my wife login 3 accounts?

Hi,

hf with the attachment. Addon should be self-explained. open it on click of the new icon / minimap icon or with the command "/split"

Hf with your disenchants

Greetings

Login still not possible?

Came from work and wanted to login. 1 Minute later -> disconnected

Edit: because others seems to be online... is it now a solution, that you get temporarly banned from login, if you login multiple accounts at the same time? I hope that this is not the ddos solution :O but I was kicked out as I tried to login a 5th account

Disconnected and can't login

Quote from Boing

so why for all times there is only moving back??

there is op class that push, but in next month it is pulled back so much that before changes was better...

still there are all times 5 op breaking classes, but now is changin what class is in this top 5

and again i will ask: who ordered you to play op broken classes??

if i'm correct this is only game and noone force others to play specyfic classes that they dont want...

or maybe someone force u to play this and this class? if yes, i suggest changing environment or contact someone for help...

idk ur situation but if someone force u, u should do something with this

everyone should play what they want

i am for freedom, stop forcing people to play what they dont want!!!

join me, togetger we will fight for freedom!!!

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Nobody is forced to anything. But ppl play the classes with most effort for less Work.

Because: I can ask you too, why are you not playing champ and learn it? Why are you not learning lua? Why are you not Reading skills and make hours of testing yourself?

Before you want to critism others, look at yourself pls. Most ppl want a fair play, that is why this thread exists

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yea i read my skills and created kitty that do some dmg on w/p, even 60% on jerath event

and my wl/ch do well if u take into account that it is wl/ch...

p/w and d/w that have easy mechanics work for me perfectly, i tank with chemp very well etc but we miss the topic...

there is still narration everywhere I I I:

I know how to play

I am the best

MY DPS

so if I'M THE BEST, **** others that dont know how to play

ur post means exactly: others are nobs, dont know how to play, but me and my friends masters know how to play, we should decide what is good for game what is not... what should be nerfed what not...

what happened to posts with buff something?? there was one last time about s/wl and wl/s, but know what?? it was covered by posts of experts that can only say nerf nerf nerf...

when GM or DEV shows himself online in game there is lots of cry "nerf"

if u think ur class is too strong, who ordered u to play this class??

of others maybe it's not op, and want this class to remain the same

why we need only nerfs?? or maybe u know only this word: "nerf"...

now there are classes nerfed that dont even need nerf, why? because 80% of posts there are "nerf nerf nerf"

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you miss something. Balancing means nearly equal dmg for all classes and not 5 op breaking classes. Bcs If classes are broken op, ppl will only play these classes and then we are back to gorge times.

And why nerf instead of Push: if you always push classes, you can solo dps everything soon without any supp in group and this will destroy group play, bcs ppl running with 4 ppl rofl instead of 10, if it's possible

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yea because people like to share their knowladge...

how much is it to get secret of w/d dmg? 15k dias or more?

noone want to share their macros/kitties with others even inside guilds and u wrote me to ask someone...

if u are so altruist to tell me to ask someone, why u dont help me, u know chempion...

.....

Wait!!!!! Asking someone about a class is something completely different from getting some macros/luas.

You NEED to understand your class and not brainafk click 1 macro.

Furthermore why should someone, who invested weeks to create a lua, should give others it for free? Imagine you give your lua to 30 ppl -> 1 class balance patch and several classes need adjustments in your lua. 30 ppl complaining you, bcs it does not work anymore. A Nightmare

Go learn to understand your class and then you can use kitty combo and make a rotation for your playstyle, not for others

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i like so much these "this class is to strong", "too much patt/matt" told by players (or by people looking on their dps) with t12/13 golden gear with XIII runes, t16/17 weapons and carts that give 20k patt/matt

and when i hear chemp strong...

me, chemp with my t10 golden gear with runes XI and t15 weapon on rofl doing 2/3 of r/ch DPS with similar gear...

me doing only 60% of jerath's organ

and chemp is nerfed more and more...

and when finaly made d/wl with t10 red gear runes X with t14 weapon doing more DSP than me chemp...

me finaly killing full jerath's organ in first run after making eq... so happy...

me hearing nerf d/wl and all mage when i finaly started doing DPS because of d/wl... (still not as good as r/ch)

my conclusions: i should only play r/ch, the best balanced class with what noone has any problems, why i wasted so much diases on other classes...

only r/ch should be god tier class combo and if something do more dmg, u need nerf, but the problem is there are nerfs of class comboes that dont do near dmg of r/ch, maybe fokus now for all forgoten classes that still need more love??

If u will make that only r/ch is safe play, there will be only this option if all classes that u make strong will be nerfed in 1-2 weeks that they will be useless...

PS: plz rework again priest and warden set skills, think about benefits from set skills for classes that do different dmg type than normaly thanks to subclasses, like w/m, p/w, d/w, wl/d, s/m (or some other idk)

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Hmm I told about s/w that the patk should be reduced a little bit. But I don't have t12/t13 Gear and t17 weapon. Only have t13/14 gear and t18 weapon sry and I play myself the classes.

Regarding the other stuff: why tf are you guys always compare at jerath or balton. Especially at jerath some classes can overperform like hell bcs they have some support on their classes, which is strong without any other support. Also at balton...... A single big trash mob which lives 4 seconds in a strong party and maybe 10 seconds in not strong parties... Nice to compare this within a 40-60 minutes run. This 2 special places/mobs are totally 100% worth to compare for balancing.👍

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No one said to only nerf d/wl but in Reality its just the strongest magical class at the Moment. And since we need to find a point how to Balance it i suggest to target the stam/wiss convertion and try to convert less stamina so on mage gears dont have int/int/int on their gear. Maybe try only converting 50 % of the stamina but the dmg reduce will only be at 60%. and dont feel Attacked because the most broken class is yours.

Also nerf s/w physical attack gain back to 12 % 22 is just too much or try 15 since this class is just too good right now.

Ok if we follow your logic as example the dex and str on scouts shouldn´t give so much pat cause they are to op atm reduce it to give lower pat and also give more hp by it.

if they nerf like you said i can throw my gear to the garbage that i build extra for that class. ty for the great idea. With my gear the class is perfect balanced in this meta. I do similar dmg like a r/ch with same gearscore. not owerpowered not lowdmg. maybe make that the int stats give lower mat not the sta or wis. The int/int dr/wl are the owerpowered now not me with my gear. So why should nerf the dr/wl with my gear instead of the int/int dr/wl. Makes no sense.

And there is one more thing. The dr/wl was a long time 1 year or longer one of the worst mdpsclasses. Why it shouldn´t be 1 year one of the best classes. Fair is that it is one of the best classes 1 year.
But I also want balanced class and i said that all the time in froum i never said that they should boost so much but they did.

I think Playernet has a good idea to adjust the dmg with gain poiendmg from 130% to 120% for first and they can still adjust by reduce more %. If they do like you say its to complicated to balance and it maybe will destroy the whole class again.

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You cannot argue a balancing depending on Gear you have done.

Hint: read the first post of this thread carefully. Class balancing is still in progress

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Hello, Got disconnected and now cant log in...game states server is online but message box shows connecting to game server but nothing happens

Whats happening??

Same here

Hello,

I discovered still many disconnects every hour (whole guild) since the last patch.

Greetings