Posts by xLutinex

Quote from Groot

I would like to make a suggestion for the k/wl

wis-player can play as d/wl for a better dmgoutput without adding a second gear for the solo-content.

int-player can also heal (wl/d) and tank (wl/k).

str-player can also play as dd and tank dependet of the second class.

dex-player can also tank (r/k;s/k).

i would suggest to change the k/wl in the direction to the d/wl for adding a better farmperformance for stam-player.

Surely you can play as k/r and cant die bc. of the selfhealing, but you dont have dmg for the solo-content.

i think the k/wl doesnt need a hard change, maybe just add a transform-buff to a passive skill.

for example: add to two-hand weapon mastery [1490501] a stamina into strength transform and add a strength buff dependent of your shield phyiscal defense.

these changes would support new ppl and ppl without an second endcontent gear :).

Greetings

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I suggest the idea of plate gear dps!

Maybe not for k/wl, bcs it's supposed to play with chain, but there are other plate gear classes, which are not very popular I think. wrd/w for example isn't really popular.

Or maybe knight/bard, knight/priest, knight/warrior or knight/warden could be reworked for a dps.

Quote from kunxu

I just found that after the recent patches. almost every layer is going down and there is no clear balance yet. Most players say the chain class is the most useless and the most trash-worthy. that's really sad for the players of that class. I took the magic class and also felt that I was no longer interested in this class. It's sad for the game if there's no clear balance and it should be stopped. instead we can modify a few classes that almost nobody plays to. Perhaps that will ignite a renewed interest.

my personal opinion. Thanks for reading it.

don't trust other ppl... chain classes are not most useless... it's more vice versa.... there are some chain classes, that are one of the top dps this game have, if you can play them. try for example w/wl, wrd/s or ch/wl as an example for every main chain class.

Not to mention d/w, a really really strong class with super support/heal ability as dps

regarding m/ch and b/s

whether m/ch is still OP or b/s is totally useless. With better gear and higher weapon as b/s I did only at balton and endboss (was fast dead) more dmg than m/ch. rest of the rofl m/ch was always stronger. In single/aoe sustain/buffed situations :O

I heared someone said here that m/ch is dead now. If that is the fact, b/s needs a strong push. But I think m/ch is simply very strong. Maybe check

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but only for "old" cards with 10/30 attributes. But btw you do not need to pay diamonds, but I think you mean the costs calculated in mats -> diamonds

Stones cost diamonds and tons of gold O.o

in the personal shop yes

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completely disaggree.

You have the choice on farming and upgrading cheap (btw, it's way cheaper than using the "diamond-way", from what I heared from cruvor) or you can do it faster and pay a lot more. For ppl with much time, it is a good way like for ppl without much time (or lazyness).

I also dont see the "overcomplicated" thing there. 5-6 stones are needed and easy to use / understand.

Yes the free path is focused on farming, but that is not a bad thing at all, if you have the choice.

Not true at all. Getting a perfect green card is same or even more expensive than paying 600 diamonds by the fast way. You didn't read anything of what I typed XD. I prefer farming, I like farming. What Im saying is that path (using stones) is more expensive than fast path.

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but only for "old" cards with 10/30 attributes. But btw you do not need to pay diamonds, but I think you mean the costs calculated in mats -> diamonds

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Rake

-100% stones once you have 5 stars should be changed.

Main atribute: from 0.1 to 0.4. That is 4x times higher.

"Aditional" atribute: from 0.3 to 0.7. It should be from 0.3 to 1.2 (4x times aswell).

Getting a 5 stars card is an incredibly long work so stones should be up to that waste of time. This "f2p" path (crazy farm) is not worth at all when you could just pay some diamonds and have all maxed.

-Random stones: They are as bad as always, nothing changed. That "chance increase" is pure shame.

I have the feeling all this was a scam to make us farm mobs (+600 per card) to have same bad numbers and spend even more than doing the "diamonds expensive" way. You gotta change this and stop fooling us. We waited 1 year to have a totally failed system with wrong numbers even on day 1 when the rework was thought.

You said we had 2 ways.

1: diamonds way -- super fast and expensive

2: farm way -- long and super cheap. The super cheap part is non existant. We pay same or even more than first way.

Edit: Persistance (orange) stone is not working either as it should. I tried with HP atribute. Spent 200 diamonds and can't go higher than 13hp.

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I completely agree.

The system is overcomplicated and focused on milking us from the dias, GF tactic. After a year of waiting, we received a pay to win.

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completely disaggree.

You have the choice on farming and upgrading cheap (btw, it's way cheaper than using the "diamond-way", from what I heared from cruvor) or you can do it faster and pay a lot more. For ppl with much time, it is a good way like for ppl without much time (or lazyness).

I also dont see the "overcomplicated" thing there. 5-6 stones are needed and easy to use / understand.

Yes the free path is focused on farming, but that is not a bad thing at all, if you have the choice.

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Quote from JockelR

R/Wrd

Oakwalkers from Phantom blade in total hit 22 times while summoned but the Phantom-blade always triggers only 13 times. So the last 10 seconds of oakwalkers spawned the skill doesnt do any damage anymore.

https://gyazo.com/31ce737f9751b70a71ea9041bea6c682

Kind Regards

Jockels

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Oak Walkers are supposed to use Phantom Blade every 2 seconds, as intended.

Greetings

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For 12 seconds? As I saw it is only triggered every 2 seconds for the next 12 seconds

BTW: Please check that phantom blade triggers even if the mob is invisible (example balton)

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R/Wrd

Oakwalkers from Phantom blade in total hit 22 times while summoned but the Phantom-blade always triggers only 13 times. So the last 10 seconds of oakwalkers spawned the skill doesnt do any damage anymore.

https://gyazo.com/31ce737f9751b70a71ea9041bea6c682

Kind Regards

Jockels

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it's 12 times from Oakwalkers and 1 time from yourself btw

Quote from Serenadae

I agree. IF the stardom system is not to be further expanded that is.

Regarding patch notes:

Stardom System – sharing cards between decks and more.

That "and more" worries me as a player who is willing to pay :O

Please let "paid" cards be 5 star

Hi,

and download the client installer here https://playernetgames.net/download

Quote from johnkopytko

well i dont like prices :[

when we can make 1k cards cost for upgrade them will be huge cant wait for 2k or 3k cards

3 000 x700d 2 100 000d

2kk+d for upgrade cards

cant wait when pro player who have no job/school and stay in game 24h tell me "u can make them u no need pay dias"

In my opinion this is wrong way ;/ what is next ? +30 stones ? pls do not make mistakes like someone other(we all know who)

From my perspective this is wrong way and im almost done with the game

im just sad...

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but tbh. you have the ability to farm or pay. that is a good way. I don't know if you have T13 runes, but players with T13 runes get less profit from runes t12 -> t13 than from 500 cards and the rune upgrade is way more expensive

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Quote from Madox

Hmm could Rake or anyone explain this better? I think I didn't understand.

There will be a specific table that explicitly specifies which attributes on a card from the main deck will allow you to choose attributes on cards in additional decks. This will also be available to players, but in a more clear and simplified form, in the compendium.

To give you an example:

Card #1 of the main deck has the following attributes:

1. DEX

2. STR

3. STA

4. PATK

With these attributes, in an additional deck the player will be able to have ONE of the following attributes:
1. DEX → STA

2. STR → HP or PATK or PDEF

3. STA → INT or PDEF or STR

4. PATK → MATK or WIS or STR or HP

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Hello,

there are some mistakes in the attributes, which one you can change to which in additional decks.

Regarding your example, Stamina can be changed to INT with low costs. But it is as follows now:

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1. DEX -> STR / WIS / MATK

2. STR -> STA

3. STA -> HP / PATK

4. PATK -> INT / PDEF

A healer with healer best in slot attributes (wis / sta / pdef / HP) can not change to mdps or pdps attributes with low costs in second deck. (only to a card with these values xD: patk/matk/STA/HP)

Rake is this a bug?

Rake card ranking for card attributes is now bugged? it is not refreshed anymore at my client

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Quote from xLutinex

Hello,

I want to share my impressions and opinion about the new card system after one day of testing / looking.

First of all: There are some bugs that need to be fixed. I guess everyone knows

Second: Nevertheless of the existing bugs, I really really like the new system! I hope, that you don't need the 5 Star System except for making a card available in other decks, because if you pay diamonds your card still remains at the same star level, but is available in other decks.

But if you don't have any disadvantage when paying/maxing with diamonds, I really like and enjoy this system and it really meets my expectations!

Greetings

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I agree. IF the stardom system is not to be further expanded that is.

The current system is expensive and I still still agree with Cruvor and Merkur that the costs are (too) high.

But at least the new stones are deterministic and you can circumvent the grind by paying diamonds. Huge improvement in my eyes.

I hope the general idea behind the current version stays as it is, looking at you stardom <.<

Prices are still debateable though.

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In my opinion the prices are ok. I save time, but can pay with diamonds

Maybe the purple/orange cards are a bit expensive

Hello,

I want to share my impressions and opinion about the new card system after one day of testing / looking.

First of all: There are some bugs that need to be fixed. I guess everyone knows

Second: Nevertheless of the existing bugs, I really really like the new system! I hope, that you don't need the 5 Star System except for making a card available in other decks, because if you pay diamonds your card still remains at the same star level, but is available in other decks.

But if you don't have any disadvantage when paying/maxing with diamonds, I really like and enjoy this system and it really meets my expectations!

Greetings

Quote from Cruvor

Hoi

Card ID 770003 / 777193 / 777012 / 777014 / 777520 / 777013 and nearly all Oheim Cards (except 3 ) in Howling Mountains are Classified as Old Cards and cant be upgraded.

https://gyazo.com/23003f934e28f52ff0938940bf398dfc

Greetings

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Any news about this? It is not only related to Oheim cards. Several event cards have this issue

Edit: not only event cards

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Yes i totally Agree , Interface and all looks really good .

But i also think the prieces should be drastically reduced . I have now maybe 35+- Cards that are finished/pretty decent for my Leather Gear ( dex str patk) and i am down ~ 700kk gold.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Finished the "new" cards yesterday and im down 1,6kkk gold and an amount of diamonds I'd rather not think about

Edit: What I really like about the changes though, is the drastic reduction of rng with the introduction of the new stones. Made the process much more enjoyable compared to the first iteration of the card system rework.

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Better let the diamond upgrade also be the card 5 stars. I see no point in investing diamond upgrade, if you need 5 stars anyway, which means a lot of farming and then cheaper maximize than with diamonds.

I am a bit disappointed about the diamond upgrade

Edit: I mean if you need 5 stars in future content for any other things.

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Quote from Rake

Greetings,

Please, press the letter "P" and check if you have an old frame or not.

Yes old frame

Xbar was the Problem btw

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Greetings,

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Hi,

I still have the old Card compendium Interface. Even after re-install the patch.

Anyone else too? Any solutions?

Please, press the letter "P" and check if you have an old frame or not.

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Yes old frame

Hi,

I still have the old Card compendium Interface. Even after re-install the patch.

Anyone else too? Any solutions?

Did you deleted some cards from game? I had more than 2600 cards, now less but missing cards seems to be only the new implemented one

One question. Is it intended that some cards are removed from Players? I miss a lot of cards from random zones,(even zones without Card system)

Quote from Rake

Greetings,

I want to offer a small scheme that explains how to get a card on an additional deck.

Paid and free path.

Quote from xLutinex

After max out cards with diamonds, which cost for example 2500 diamonds for an orange card, it's not good, that you need to pay 1000 diamonds additionally to change attributes on a second deck.

This result in a minimum cost of 1350 (if only diamonds used) diamonds for wach card, if you play more than 1 class.

If card materials used, minimum of 750 diamonds for each card and additional deck is needed. That will result again in a disadvantage for players with multi gear/classes.

Need to calculate more in detail, but it seems it's cheaper making an alt with all cards again instead of doing second deck

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Hmm ok. Paying a lot of diamonds instead of having time is not enough? 😂

After max out cards with diamonds, which cost for example 2500 diamonds for an orange card, it's not good, that you need to pay 1000 diamonds additionally to change attributes on a second deck.

This result in a minimum cost of 1350 (if only diamonds used) diamonds for wach card, if you play more than 1 class.

If card materials used, minimum of 750 diamonds for each card and additional deck is needed. That will result again in a disadvantage for players with multi gear/classes.

Need to calculate more in detail, but it seems it's cheaper making an alt with all cards again instead of doing second deck

I don't need to explain everyone a class, but to be clear: how the hell can m/ch outplayed in aoe. This class has an elite skill as non gcd which hits every target in range. And being afk at b1? Wth.... My scout/rogue did less single burst dmg than m/ch of kaga.

It's like everyone crying like at the latest mage changes, where every mdps cried mage is dead.... Mage isn't dead. But you can't do top dps with crap gear anymore. It's more like all leather classes now

In general and for balancing mages, it's better now as far as I saw, except some special classes^^

Edit: 1 problem for balancing btw is rofl. Mobs are dieing super fast, even bosses, and with a full raid, you can't compare. 6 ppl are maximum for this instance with golden gear in my opinion

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M/ch

Could you please stop buffing and then nerfing until is useless? With this change class will be again a shame in single burst dmg and organs. A 35% nerf is crazy. Organs dmg was already meh, now it will be one of the worst ingame.

If you wanna keep this nerf in single burst you have to add single sustain buff. 30% cast for 30s. 90s cd. It is needed.

Changed Electric Explosion Expertise to increase charged damage of Electric Explosion to 2800 from 2300 instead of allowing double damage

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right now, pre-patch, m/ch is f**** strong. insane aoe and silly simple 40-50kk single burst dps oO

I think everybody knows, that buffing -> nerfing -> buffing -> nerfing is not pleasant for the players, but tbh classes that are silly OP needs adjustments.

Why such classes gets so strong without simple tests before release is another topic