It was supposed to not be nice.
Ye sure, you can buy recipe, you can buy mats. BUT you can't use it. So what is the reason to do this?
If you can buy the recipe, you don't need to do any boss in KS to get the artefact after the next patch
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Because I have a tank in the team? I've already done some runes with him, not only that, I have a few other tanks in the guild that I have been with and each of them will stand all bosses except the first.
Dieing at which stack? I also tanked and a red geared tank of us. It is definitly possible for every red gear tank to 40 stacks without problems
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I think he means the freeze phase of b2, if all except 1 gets freeze. And if tank and healer is freezed, tanks can get struggles with lower eq
You may be right, but we didn't notice such problems on our runes.
We always defrosted the heal first, then the tank, and there were no problems with that. Additionally (here I can be wrong, I didn't tank ks), but when the freeze tactic is triggered, does the boss stop his attacks for 20 seconds? If I remember correctly, the description of his buff is something like this: "takes no damage, unable to attack"
If I remember correctly, you can interrupt (mistakenly?) the cast. Still no damage can be dealt but the boss hits you
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I didn't notice any editing. Nevertheless, my tank will also defeat the second boss without any problems. Not only that, he will defeat every next one, only the first one, not
I think he means the freeze phase of b2, if all except 1 gets freeze. And if tank and healer is frozen, tanks can get struggles with lower eq
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The complexity of your argues has lost me. First you compare the two bosses, and then when I answer this argument, you write that I can't compare them?
Edit: Locatha is Boss three, I meant to write Yusalien's freeze in my original post.
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Everyone has the possibility to beat KS first boss. And the boss room is really small. I don't think it was intended kiting it.
And if it was not intended and is fixed now, why complaining about a bugfix? If other bosses are buggy and get fixed, nobody complains, but here? I don't understand the world anymore
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Again: You do not need to kill any bosses to get the first artefact. Only for the refined one.
Kalin is supposed to be hard, something to give the playerbase something to strive for. Weaker groups are not supposed to be able to clear the instance. These groups should otherwise try to find ways to improve.
So weaker player can make artifact but can't wear it cause he is weaker player and can't clear KS to unlock the slot. This doesn't make any sense.
but you only need to clear KS once for the quest and normal artefact. maybe looking for a group that can clear it for quest?
I mean nobody claimed about world boss title that ppl need to buy it, bcs it's to hard to clear
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Or when you refine an artefact, it's level remains. So if you refine a a+6 artefact you get another +6, from +3 you get another +3 and so on...
Greetings.
It is intended to be an upgrade, so no plussing level is transfered. This way everyone can farm the normal artefacts through trashmobs while not being forced to clear the entire instance. But the refined artefacts require loot from the final boss and do require full clears. So if a group of players is not able to clear the entire instance yet, they can still achieve the normal artefacts. And stronger groups can go for the refined ones additionally. Everyone wins.
In that case, maybe the refined one is better than the normal +6?
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Quote from Patchnotes
Implemented new refined artefacts that are an upgrade from the normal versions.
So we get new artefacts and need to plus them all over again?
I mean, its not that expensive, since its just some dailies but... 
Maybe you need a +6 normal artefact to refine it? Would be the best solution for all
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This is intended. The bosses should have required full plate armor with parry rate and so on. It makes me a little sad that some groups managed to kite bosses. But that's ok for the moment.
It is everywhere possible. Look at rofl endboss. As long as the bosses have lower movespeed than players and movespeed can reduced for bosses, it will always be possible. And for example in rofl you can take shoes for additional speed.
Just to let you know for further instances
Greetings
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It is posible tp dodge any of the atacks of the bosses of kallin? I feel that even with the rogue dodge skill I cant dodge a single atack
b1-b2 area damage to high.if you are not a warrior, you usually die
B1 is only movement. Literally you don't need a tank .
Even with that Im testing with the -20% aoe dmg reduction title, but I just wanted to know if the bosses white atacks can be dodged or not cause Im mainly dying cuz of white ataks or atleast thats what I see on the combat log
I had the same feeling. Maybe the precision is extremely high of the bosses
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Hello,
the quest card of kalin shrine "Terpsichore" has still no attributes, if you got the card before the hotfix.
Greetings
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my opinion is based on what I see in the game, what I hear in the chat room and read in the chat channels (the discontent of many of us with specific topics). I do not have the pleasure of meeting you xLutinex , some of your guild yes and they are people appreciated by me. I'm not going to get into a debate over something with you. I only expressed my feelings in this space where I saw that I could do it.
I will only say that your experience in the game is not the same as the rest. And what for you may be a little challenging to achieve (but achievable) for the rest of the players is sometimes impossible.
thank you grox for your warm words, I wish the rest of your team were as dedicated when expressing themselves as you are, and not the ones I have previously read by others in other forum discussions.
Greetings
The forum is a place for everyone. I would never forbid anyone to tell his/her opinion. And yes, I know that some things for some ppl are unreachable at the moment. Everyone can work on their own or with a team to reach everything. And honestly some players want harder challenge (this is normal behavior in every game). You can count me in for the last example of players.
But in comparison to others here in the forum, I share my experience and tell my opinion and don't try to tell anything as "every player". Sure I have an other opinion than any other. That is normal and everyone has his/her opinion and can share it
Greetings
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oh .. not all of us have someone who whispers behind us and warns us of some change or requirement for the new. (it's my way of thinking)
I don't know if you want to say what I think, but you are wrong. If you don't use itempreview, it is not the fault of others who use it.
To the rest: don't know if you read it. I have the feeling that you did'nt. Kaga and me for example don't care if they remove all artefacts, which would be equal again. But I have the feeling that some ppl don't understand the meaning of equality. Equality does not mean, that everyone gets all what other ppl have. It means, that everyone have the same chances. If some ppl do something and some not, it is still equality.
Otherwise it would be like I earlier said: ppl should not play If others can't and so on.
My opinion is that the devs listen to the top guild and won't listen to others and the people know which Guild im talking about
Also this is just wrong. Look for example the hundred of pages in class balancing thread. How many ppl just complained about something and did'nt give an idea of improvements and how many gave some ideas. There is a big gap. Also if ppl crying a class is to weak but in reality it isnt. Should devs buff a class bcs some players can't play it well? If I remember correctly, more than 90% of posts came from the top 3-4 guilds and you want to say that they won't listen to smaller guilds, bcs they don't take the time to think about improvements?
Don't get me wrong, I don't think all smaller guilds are noobs, but you need to realize, that there is a big gap of ppl who knows the game and can play good and ppl who just play but have no idea.
I take an example: do you know the damage formula and know, why all support skills we're changed from buffing pdmg/mdmg to damage dealt? If yes, cool. If no, you see that some ppl take really much time to find out things
I have one question regarding the hoto/rofl/kalin to easy/hard discussion. Is it your opinion that everyone can run the instances in starter gear or not? Because at rofl time I know that some players tried rofl dps and tank in starter gear - successfully. Maybe thats why some said, that rofl is to easy.
Merkur regarding your struggles in gorge at the beginning of rofl: gorge was and still is was harder than rofl. Especially at the beginning of rofl, gorge was harder than it is now. They changed some gorge events to make it easier after some time rofl was released.
Greetings
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Just a few samples that ppl took / can take personal.
I do it in the words you still wrote here in the thread: I think you read but didn't understand the meaning of harassment
If ppl feels harassed for what you always mention and mention about a topic, that you can't know (without insider information), it is clearly harassment for me. Now you know and I know, you won't accept my point of view
The fact that someone wants to earn dias is probably a normal thing. As soon as I think about it, I can see the prices of items from WB very quickly in front of my eyes, issued by the first guild that beat the WB
And the topic of your WB... Well ... Better not to comment ...
Regarding WB, I wish you were right
There are many people from whom I could learn it, you are not one of them, you have repeatedly proved in this forum that you cannot be objective, I do not say that I am, but unlike you, I do not tell someone that it should be objective. Even in this thread you wrote that Boss 2 is a great challenge without looking OBJECTIVELY that other players will have a hard time defeating him. Also, when the rofl was introduced, you claimed it was too easy because it was too easy for YOUR GUILD then where was your objectivity and look more at other players' impressions?
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I cite myself:
Don't harass other players.
You can also be objective while arguing your point of view. Saying, that some bosses are to easy for an endgame instance is a general point of view. Assume kalin shrine hardmode would have the same values like normal mode, you would also calling "to easy". And I guess if you write that, that is ok, but if I write it, it is not objective? Ok. I guess I need to improve my analyzing skills. Thank you for the information.
Unlike you, I am not harass ppl because they have an own opinion.
Btw: B2 was a good challenge. Others players, for example Idhril, said it was good playable and they played it several minutes. It is kinda funny, that if I write it, it will be criticized, but if other writes it, it is ok? Ok. Seems I am a person, which words are always wrong, regardless what I say
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Most of forbidden behaviors can be found in the Legal Documentation:
https://playernetgames.com/legals
If you are not sure if something is allowed or not, please ask our team members.
If there's a bug or exploit in game, which is giving unfair advantage, it should be always reported.
We're always trying to fix them fast, so that it won't cause unfair advantage.
The link in the documentation
Anti Cheating Agreement | .PlayerNet Gamesplayernetgames.netis not reachable
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You should objectively think about all circumstances.
If I would take your point of view, it is unfair doing server maintenance at 0:00 CET. Some ppl need to sleep and go to work, others can farm and have their stats/items/whatever. This is not equal to all. The server should also not be online, if ppl go to work or sleep, because it is not fair.
I guess, we should arrange a timeslot of maybe 1 hour a day, where the server is online and all ppl can login and play. That would be fair for all I guess. (This post contains traces of irony)
Greetings
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I thought that we are dealing here with educated people, adults, knowledgeable about the game, not deprived of the ability to think logically?
Afaik the game is for ppl at age 12+. And often I have the feeling speaking with ppl below 12 in the last days
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There was no information it's forbidden, same as no information killing only 1 WB is forbidden, to be honest. So how can we know if something is allowed or not?
When you enter the toilet, there is no sticker that says "you must not poop into the wash basin" and yet you know you must not poop and no one has to tell you.
A situation in which, after fully beating WB, we get 2 items and a 24-hour cd on further fights, it means that you should get a maximum of 2 items for 24 hours.
If it turns out that after killing one of two bosses, you get one item and you don't get, for example, 12 hours of cd, only 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds, then something is wrong. Especially if he does it 10 times and you get 10 items in an hour or two, something is wrong. I wouldn't like to use bad words, but I don't understand how you can think it should work that way.
Please, let's respect each other and don't treat ourselves like idiots, if we've done something wrong, let's be adult people, let's take it on the chest and don't try to whiten ourselves.
don't passively harassment some players, ty.
When you enter the toilet, there is no sticker that says "you must not poop into the wash basin" and yet you know you must not poop and no one has to tell you.
You are told by parents, because this is socializing. children imitate the behavior the parents do, which is total an other circumstances. Imagine you are a children/baby and live alone. Entering the toilet room. You don't know it. Imagine you CAN'T know it. What then happens should be clear to everyone. That's why non educated ppl shit even on the ground in a plan just saying...
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Perhaps you are already tired, I think you are reading without understanding, I think that is quite clear.
If someone could farm resources for 10 hours, someone else at that time focused on, for example, quests, or simply did not have time, now you turn off the option of farming for everyone (I'm talking about mobs up to 1 boss). The source of dishonesty is 10h, which the other player cannot make up for, this is not treating everyone equally as you tell yourself.
Even the person who was questing, had the possibility of farming kalin shrine. That is the definition of equality. What persons do with their time, farming kalin, doing quests, writing in forum is the decision of everyone himself/herself.
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Please stop flaming a single dev, who is answering here completely and in detail.
Yes, "Every player had the same possibility to farm..". That is correct btw. "HAD" -> past. Now @all players: Look forward.
They can remove all artefacts and resend materials from full runs or something like that or they don't remove artefacts.
But please, don't complain anymore. it is what it is. We all need to live with that.
I also assume that the team, especially the devs, didn't had enough freetime or sleep in the last weeks because of the ddos attacks. We also should see the circumstances.
Greetings
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There was no information it's forbidden, same as no information killing only 1 WB is forbidden, to be honest. So how can we know if something is allowed or not?
Ty!!!
When someone plays healer and cannot farm solo essences to 1st boss Hoto and someone on d/wrl can -> overuses class?
Yes XD
I can make that kind of questions all day, believe me.
Next time DEVS, when you plan to add something, try it hundred times more before opening or write the specific rules for each one: mob, Instance, world bosses
It is not only/always the fault of devs. Devs in general create and implement stuff product owners wants. Idk how it is in CoA, but if any designer or higher position of a dev says, "we want this and this. Should work like this", a dev implements it. That is why designer and product owner have in general more understanding for their customers.
P.S. don't see this as 100% truth for everything. It is my point of view as a software Developer with experience in small, big and world wide acting companies
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turn off the disappearance of mobs after killing the first boss and on the last one because there are huge drops in the game's fluency
I would suggest to change it to instant dissapear like the monster in rofl right before b3 at the end of stone event. That would stop the lag/freeze/fps-to-0 drops
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Use antidote skill, please. How can you not know that?
Antidote for bleeding from mobs at Endboss? Are you joking? I don't speak about frogs....
I speak about joke white hits of around 15-20k...
