Honestly I don't understand the change in mage/warlock. Why nerf it so much, from 30% to 5% and giving a huge hp loss? And the class combo wasn't that strong either.
about its former power is a delusion. It was very strong. But the nerf is really too big
Здравствуйте уважаемые администраторы, создается такое впечатление что у вас личная ненависть к классу магов. Мало того что магу/колдуну дали теперь личную кровавку, так еще и 10 секундный урон отобрали. Если учесть что маги это самый дорогой класс по экипировке, ни к статам, ни покупке шмота по цене не подступишься, то вы практически убиваете рынок маговских вещей, потому что они теперь никому не нужны. Перетачиваться в другой класс , как вы иногда советуете тоже не вижу смысла, маговский шмот продать не смогу, поэтому точиться не получится, остается завязать с такой игрой, где происходит настоящая сегрегация(
Приветствую. Лично протестировал за последние 3 дня различные связки магов, такие как: маг-скаут,маг-колдун, маг-разбойник, маг-друид, маг-воин, маг-прист, а также колдун-скаут, колдун-глад, скаут-маг. Все, как минимум, эти связки сейчас более чем играбельные. Всегда в топ-3 по дпс, имея в рейде одних из самых сильных кольчужных и кожаных дд.
Касательно маг-колдуна:
Имеет ли смысл говорить о возврате урона от черной магии?
Нужно ли делать черную магию аналогично кровавке?
В совокупности, скорее, нет, чем да. Так как 5% снижения защиты не стоит того, чтобы у тебя взамен забирали хп, учитывая, что тканевое снаряжение самое уязвимое. Если бы говорили о снижении 30% защиты (маг и физ), то, наверное, это было бы справедливо, чтобы снималось хп. Касательно бафа урона от забытой черной магии: я бы вернул этот баф, сохраняя потерю хп от забытой черной магии и снижая деф на 5%, или, наоборот, убрал бы баф урона, но вернул 30% снижения защиты (возможно 20-25%, учитывая тенденцию ослабления саппортов), добавил бы снижение хп от работающего скилла и убрал бы баф урона. Это было сбалансированно.
Об всех тестах пишу, имея эндгейм снаряжение и оружие с высоким тиром.
Display MoreR/S is still waiting for an adjustment of assassins rage. Just add range weapon damage please, you actually wanted to nerf offhand dmg only.
With p/s and many other classes, everything is obvious. They need to be changed, somewhere to change something, somewhere to raise a little damag. Because when choosing a class, no matter what anyone says, the choice is obvious, if you want to play, for example, p / s, and not p / sorcerer or bards, you will lag behind in damage. So it is with warriors, scouts(which I don't play at all), magicians, and so on.
This is client side visual bug, other players wouldn't see you are inflicting critical damage I assume. It will be fixed with next patch.
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Therefore, an individual rework of classes is necessary, but by no means a mass one. You need to set a standard (take one strong class as a basis), and bring the rest to its level (within the framework of the damage-survival-utility ratio).
Turning to the administration, I would be happy to help with this, I do not have a subjective opinion, like 99% of the players, I care about the balance a priori, and I have a lot of experience in this area (I was engaged in the balance of classes and brought it up to 80%, in turn, when the absolute balance in Arcadia has only 20-25% of the bundles of classes).
Sincerely, Best.
Taking a person who a priori didnt play endgame in CoA to “balance” is wrong (and that’s the kindest thing I can say).
Because the statement that r/wl is better than r/s requires at least a comment. And if we say about one of the strongest rogue combinations (r/w) that it is weak, then the question of the tester can be eliminated in its infancy
and I would also like to launch a solo mode, but if this is not possible, then do it by analogy with Sathkur (I mean the amount of HP proportional to the number of players). Now it is impossible to get decent rewards from an event if 3+ people play at it.
Mage/priest. Skill id: 492928. Skill should increase wind damage, but actually reduces wind damage
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Too much to say and compare. Luckily, my mates have good equipment and a high level of gameplay. But I will touch everything with strokes and it will become clear to you why I asked the question in the paragraph above:
1) You're making changes to rogues, but no change to the apparently necessary dps increase for various rogue combos. Some combos are completely forgotten.
2) You take 10% dps from the mage, which is impossible to play in endgame instances (except m/s PS if someone decides to mention m/ch or m/r, then come to the dungeon and prove it to me in comparison with me). I will not even talk about the latest "boost" of m/p type connections. And we still remember "-26% intelligence". At the same time, such bundles as s/m, ch/b (mentioned by Noodlez), s/wl and the most juicy for a raid instance wl/d remain untouched. I still don't understand what you are balancing.
3) Warlocks: I don't really understand the 11% elemental damage (dark) nerf. If we're talking about a Warlock/Scout, it's completely fair (obviously stronger than other Warlocks). Buuut, wait. Wl/s gets a minus 11% from the main skill, and the increase in dark damage from Blood Arrow is reduced to 11.4% from 22.8% (another minus 11.4). Perhaps (but you have to try), maybe this is true when it comes to a warlock / scout. But why did all the other warlocks suffer? Maybe someone knows more, I would very much like to talk with this player.
4) if you need scout advice just ask Cruvor, Ramer, Lutine. This is because scouts also need balance. I'm not talking about boosting or nerfing combos, but the balance between them. It seems to me that starting with this, we can then talk about the balance of classes. And where is the much-awaited new skill?
5) Chain ... I can't comment here because I haven't played with this type of equipment.
But I can say very exaggerated at the moment chain=cloth>leather (in general).
oh yes... Of course, I appreciate the endgame ini (which rofl is no longer for me, for example)
Just to make it clear, once again, nerf is 5%, not 10% or 11% for neither of classes.
Greetings
Just to make it clear, once again, mages and warlocks arent the strongest dps classes even for mdpses
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Assuming the devs balance around dc AND idk, some changes really make sense imo. So let's enter my different game for a second and simulate as we all would play on the same server... Here we go...
A) Warlocks were stronger than every mage before the patch, but mages were better in every 6 man content, so I assume the nerf of both was reasonable
B) Some specific (very much) overpowered classes, such as Ch/B and Wl/S were nerfed additionally, perfect
C) S/M was nerfed aa few patches ago (lost 5% matt and got little xbow magic damage instead), the class feels like an average mdps these days to me. Nothing really broken, but equal to a bard/mage with just different advantages and disadvantages, but overall same damage.
D)
You could actually play M/K in there, which was rlly cool too. I'm curious if it's still viable, since I focused on op m/s and warlocks for the last weeks in dc. M/Ch has a shitty matt but is the very best mdps class in IDK imo. In DC it wasn't as bad, too and gave decent support to Ch/B (the same way a S/M supports B/M)...
E) I was testing the Wl/S on dummy yesterday and compared with my past parses. And (excluding the dummy circumstances) turned out it lost like 5.5% damage output overall. Damn, that's a huge impact! Wl/Ch didn't feel any change at all, the 5% feel like the normal variance while parsing (parses differ between +-2-5% normally).
F) Mages on the other hand, feel much weaker through the same 5% nerf. My M/S lost like 20% (should be less in real instance, would assume like 12-15%), M/Ch lost 11% compared to my parses from 3 days ago. So yea I agree, mages need a boost soon to be fine again.
Can you back that up with numbers/setups maybe? I did around 25 DC- and 15 Idk-runs with mage in the last couple of weeks and it felt really strong. The couple i did on wl felt awful. But i have a very old gear and maybe i am doing something wrong on the wl classes. Furthermore i personally dont think doing rotations on dummies helps at all. Its always about the raid setups and generally most played classes.
~ kind regards
I would like to do 2-3 runs with you. Maybe I don't understand something... But mages are simply insignificant compared to the best combinations, they simply lack attack. I went to DC as mr, mch, mk, mwl, md and all this is much worse than the same sm even before the nerf. But I am also 100% sure that you are one of the strongest mages here (namely mages). And only one thought appears: there is no dps left in LL - which is also absolute absurdity... GO DC honey 
If you reset your elemental catalysis after half of its cd is completed, you can use it every 2 mins and combine it with the 2 funny ghosts which has 2 min cd as well. You can even use water and elven potion for a third burst-like burst that only works on single targets
PS: Have fun including this into your next answer as well)
Yes, sorry, you're right, every 2 minutes. But unfortunately it is 33% less common than others 
Display MoreA) if you are talking about nostalgia for mages, then having a warrior and a scout in the group (where you are one dps more) you will not have time to deal damage. It's a setup question. When we talk about DC and talk about a magician, then personally I feel an acute shortage of parameters (specifically - magic attack). And it's pointless to compare classes, half are just dead.
С) scout mage is utterly stronger than bard mage
D) I tested M/K 5-7 days ago. It is really good, BUT before second boss DC (i lose 10-15% top1)
E) My favorite category is testing for dummy... It's not the first day you've been playing and you should understand that here you can only compare the damage done. In a dungeon, you don't even know the meaning of protection. The only question is the stability of your game as a DPS
A) That's our default setup in IDK, actually me as M/Ch or M/R or M/K, a S/D and a W/Whatever. And M/Ch was best overall, even while gears of us were equal. M/R was the weakest of the 3 mages, but had best support at the same time. However, M/R is perfect for Kalin imo, that's enough of use cases for me.
C) In which way? Sustain damage of bard is better than scout, so if you don't burst constantly, bard would be equal or even better, depending on raid speed. And even in fast raids, if you have a S/M and a B/M at the same time, b/m makes up in burst through the debuff.
E) Point is, that 2 same tests under same circumstances with the same environment result in a difference of 5% if enough for me to be sure that Wl/S isn't cut as much as it looks like in the patchnotes. But sure, dummy differs a lot from instances, you can only compare max damage but never include additional support etc, since conditions are too different... But why should I care about protection if I don't die in idk or dc at all as a ranged dps? Guess I don't get your point here
А) I was in IDK as m/ch and s/m. And my slow fingers said me "play s/m, if u have w/s or w/d in group" doesnt matter both classes are strong for this
C) I always only count damage throughout the dungeon. Because the result is the end. I never look at dps separately for trash and bosses (Provided that the group needs to pick up a setup so that there is enough damage at all stages)
E) yes, perhaps I should have clarified I'm talking about the protection of mobs and bosses, in order to understand what food, synedrils, supports and what ranks to choose Our defense as a long-range dps is not important
Display MoreCool, I'm playing a different game again than most others \o/
Assuming the devs balance around dc AND idk, some changes really make sense imo. So let's enter my different game for a second and simulate as we all would play on the same server... Here we go...
A) Warlocks were stronger than every mage before the patch, but mages were better in every 6 man content, so I assume the nerf of both was reasonable
B) Some specific (very much) overpowered classes, such as Ch/B and Wl/S were nerfed additionally, perfect
C) S/M was nerfed aa few patches ago (lost 5% matt and got little xbow magic damage instead), the class feels like an average mdps these days to me. Nothing really broken, but equal to a bard/mage with just different advantages and disadvantages, but overall same damage.
D)
2) You take 10% dps from the mage, which is impossible to play in endgame instances (except m/s PS if someone decides to mention m/ch or m/r, then come to the dungeon and prove it to me in comparison with me). I will not even talk about the latest "boost" of m/p type connections. And we still remember "-26% intelligence". At the same time, such bundles as s/m, ch/b (mentioned by Noodlez), s/wl and the most juicy for a raid instance wl/d remain untouched. I still don't understand what you are balancing.
You could actually play M/K in there, which was rlly cool too. I'm curious if it's still viable, since I focused on op m/s and warlocks for the last weeks in dc. M/Ch has a shitty matt but is the very best mdps class in IDK imo. In DC it wasn't as bad, too and gave decent support to Ch/B (the same way a S/M supports B/M)...
E) I was testing the Wl/S on dummy yesterday and compared with my past parses. And (excluding the dummy circumstances) turned out it lost like 5.5% damage output overall. Damn, that's a huge impact! Wl/Ch didn't feel any change at all, the 5% feel like the normal variance while parsing (parses differ between +-2-5% normally).
F) Mages on the other hand, feel much weaker through the same 5% nerf. My M/S lost like 20% (should be less in real instance, would assume like 12-15%), M/Ch lost 11% compared to my parses from 3 days ago. So yea I agree, mages need a boost soon to be fine again.
A) if you are talking about nostalgia for mages, then having a warrior and a scout in the group (where you are one dps more) you will not have time to deal damage. It's a setup question. When we talk about DC and talk about a mage, then personally I feel an acute shortage of parameters (specifically - magic attack). And it's pointless to compare classes, half are just dead.
С) scout mage is utterly stronger than bard mage
D) I tested M/K 5-7 days ago. It is really good, BUT before second boss DC (i lose 10-15% top1)
E) My favorite category is testing for dummy... It's not the first day you've been playing and you should understand that here you can only compare the damage done. In a dungeon, you don't even know the meaning of protection. The only question is the stability of your game as a DPS
Mage/rogue is in a veeeeery good spot at the moment. It has raid support, deals the best dmg type in the game (dark) and has an overpowered burst skill that lets it beat scouts and other burst classes as long as the burst doesnt last longer than 10 seconds. Probably not as good as scout/mage or mage/scout but a little too strong in bursts.
Yes, its good as support, like mexxer, but not dps. It has burst each 2.5 min (at this time others - 1.5 min).
1) You're making changes to rogues, but no change to the apparently necessary dps increase for various rogue combos. Some combos are completely forgotten.
I don't know what other leather players plays, but I tested for example r/wrd in idk a few days ago (idk bcs I only have old weapons and there you don't get an extra boost with dc weapons).
I for myself saw, that based on my eq the class was good. Not to weak, not OP. The biggest problem I always saw was, that most rogue players are very squishy (maybe bcs of greedy dmg), but I rarely died in general in idk, bcs I play more defensive and maybe that's why my overall dmg was always good
My friend, if we say about rogue=0.6-0.8dps=not weak, u are right 100%. but if we're talking about competition, i have other opinion.
And for u, my dear Zyrex, I'll write new post
Display MoreRegarding the changes to mdps classes: Mage nerfs are kind of justified i guess. But can someone tell me where the warlock nerfs are coming from? Those were like the last mdps classes that i would have touched imo.
~kind regards
Edit.: Something else to point out is that by nerfing wl and mage you are indirectly pushing scout/mage to be the best mdps period. It is already one of the strongest mdps options and it will get a lot better with the planned generall scout buff of 15%.
Just to make it clear, both classes received total of a 5% damage output reduction.
Greetings
Too much to say and compare. Luckily, my mates have good equipment and a high level of gameplay. But I will touch everything with strokes and it will become clear to you why I asked the question in the paragraph above:
1) You're making changes to rogues, but no change to the apparently necessary dps increase for various rogue combos. Some combos are completely forgotten.
2) You take 10% dps from the mage, which is impossible to play in endgame instances (except m/s PS if someone decides to mention m/ch or m/r, then come to the dungeon and prove it to me in comparison with me). I will not even talk about the latest "boost" of m/p type connections. And we still remember "-26% intelligence". At the same time, such bundles as s/m, ch/b (mentioned by Noodlez), s/wl and the most juicy for a raid instance wl/d remain untouched. I still don't understand what you are balancing.
3) Warlocks: I don't really understand the 11% elemental damage (dark) nerf. If we're talking about a Warlock/Scout, it's completely fair (obviously stronger than other Warlocks). Buuut, wait. Wl/s gets a minus 11% from the main skill, and the increase in dark damage from Blood Arrow is reduced to 11.4% from 22.8% (another minus 11.4). Perhaps (but you have to try), maybe this is true when it comes to a warlock / scout. But why did all the other warlocks suffer? Maybe someone knows more, I would very much like to talk with this player.
4) if you need scout advice just ask Cruvor, Ramer, Lutine. This is because scouts also need balance. I'm not talking about boosting or nerfing combos, but the balance between them. It seems to me that starting with this, we can then talk about the balance of classes. And where is the much-awaited new skill? 
5) Chain ... I can't comment here because I haven't played with this type of equipment.
But I can say very exaggerated at the moment chain=cloth>leather (in general).
oh yes... Of course, I appreciate the endgame ini (which rofl is no longer for me, for example)
better is adding attack speed or dmgAtk speed is good as it is. Yeah 5% dmg and Attack should be fine. The Whirlwind with 3 sek cooldown can be an option yes and maybe with manacost instead of rage
yea, and a triple hit with passive damage from each would be a bomb in general
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Flame Spirit(PET)
When you are in long dungeons and in constant fight, Pet mana runs out very quickly and we have to re-summon and buff
I hope DEV's can do something about it
Your heals can to regenerate MP for your pets
Display MoreAll classes should have 285 level weapon for the weapons they use. It's stupid some have 285 and others 220, it makes no sense. If checking subclass by subclass is too much work, add 285 to every class in all weapons and easy fix.
Common Resist is not related with weapon level. If your spell is results being a Resist, only way to improve it is more accuracy.
Weapon level is affecting only Miss, which magical spells can do too, which is a lot less frequent compared to Resist caused by level difference.
If certain class spell is Resisting more than others, it is a matter of balance which will be investigated further.
Greetings
Can you check pls resist rate for static field? Just i still have a lot of resists(more 20% for this skill) with dmg tittle for tittle system, i havent only with +600% acc, but its the loss for 10-14% elementaly dmg (class dependent).
Bard/Druid
Could you increase the maximum weapon level of "Staff" to 270 or 285. Right now its at 210 which causes me to miss even at the pupets in itnal camp, which makes this class unplayable in an actual instance.
Greetings.
then for mage and warlock too 285 pls
i can tell one
its something like 1:6-7
what i see now ? more ppl leaving than come
is this something about the balance of the scouts?
you're toxic as always, buddy 
The point is that you were always worried and worried, but for us they did it all of a sudden PS as I indicated in the post above, I support this idea, but I want more loyal solutions
quality for all? i support it too
#give1.3mattkforintand1.2mattkforwis
don't you think that with the patch that made mages upgrade weapons now, the number of people playing on staff bonds (except for s/m, s/wl) has been significantly reduced?! I like the idea and I support it, but it might make sense to introduce some kind of item that increases hitting speed or experience per leveling (I did not see the announcement of the patch long before it was introduced), because leveling takes an incredible amount of time (I'm currently level 247, for example, to pump up to 248 I need 3.5 hours, given that I have a constant attack speed of 0.7, and with music, food and titles 0.5, and after level 260 I will have to change class on mage or warlock where constant attack speed will be 1.2 at best)
PS i know about pets for this, enough for a level and a half for one day
Display MoreDisplay MoreRegarding classes like Warden/Druid and Scout/Mage(mdps).
I suggest to either nerf such classes or push all others, cause as a mdps in dc, as soon as I see 1 s/m and 1 wd/d..why bother playing dps cause they will outperform you everywhere. The damage these classes deal is absolutly insane and you almost can't compare with any other class.
Edit: There are several pdps classes that also need some "tough love" like Druid/warrior e.g. but I just wanted to write about the op mage classes
Greetings.
a lot of patches they didn't upgrade this class. why do you want them neft now? because your class has been lagging in DC.
PS he plays wdd in DC and always the first in scruti. I finished.
since I understand which guild member Laisha is talking about 
, I can tell that there is no need to level up the weapon. There are misses, but they are few. I didn't use the accuracy rune.
Another card that does not display 1 attribute. Background: it was a card with 1 attribute (+10 to all attributes), then I added 3 more attributes, changed them to what I needed and then upgraded it for 600d
I can't help but share another good proposal, consisting of two points, which, IMHO, should be implemented ONLY jointly.
1) there are currently cards in the game that can no longer be upgraded, such as
it was great to have these cards back so everyone can improve them
2) after my sentence in paragraph 1, someone will say: "no, I'm against it, I spent a lot of money before the patch, I'm entitled to this benefit." but the essence of the second point is that all players can complete their cards on the principle of "residual value". that is, for such a card, for example
price improvement is not 600d, but in proportion to the missing parameters (in proportion to 600d)
4 attr:
cost one attr = 150d
for this card, 3 attributes are maximum (almost;) for simplicity of calculation, we will assume that they are maximum) and one attribute is improved only by 50%. so the cost of upgrading to the maximum will be 50% (remaining) of 150d and will be equal to 75d.
I think that this is fair and will bring a lot of positive emotions for all players. Thanks
I understand that something is not working properly. I ask you to fix. I explain: I don’t have only 2 two of the comendium, Lutine doesn’t have one. The difference in the rating is 2640-2637=3, although in fact the difference is one card.
I will immediately answer the question: 1) I noticed this a long time ago 2) I changed equipment / location, etc.
Both screenshots are taken in real time. These ratings have not been updated in principle for more than six months.
I can only say one thing, I did not see the difference between clicks of random stones for cards with one star and five stars, this is the first. And the second - the compendium interface is buggy, for cards with 5 stars it is impossible to use 100% stones
