Posts by xLutinex

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Quote from Himen

    Lool i dont need to know any of that i can see whit my eyes what is diffrence , and thx a lot for new nerf realy... And you even got nerf for s/d and it was now closer to other scouts , so why you asked for nerf , its not much but still why ?

    First: If you see it with your eyes: 51.8% physical damage is more than 62.8% damage like it was before. just saying.

    Second: S/D is OP too. It is nearly at the same level like r/s is current. I don't know what you mean with "s/d is closer to other scouts". S/D is like 1.2 - 1.5 stronger than other scouts (except s/ch, which is strong as s/d atm)

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Quote from Himen
    Quote from xLutinex

    Regarding latest changes of rogue/scout:


    • Changed Blood Poison to modify Blood Arrow to increase physical damage instead of melee/ranged damage, by 51.8%.
    • Changed Substitute to inflict Shot damage with 100% chance instead of 60%.
    • Changed Wraith Attack to have 6% lower damage for each extra target.
    • Changed Fast Draw to do not be interrupted while moving.
    • Reduced Precision focus cost to 50 from 100, changed it to make Fast Draw recover 10 focus upon landing successful attack additionally.
    • Reduced Shadow Figure ranged attack speed gain to 10% from 20%.


    I guess it is the wrong way, if this changes are the intention of buffing the class furthermore. The class was still the strongest and after the patch now, it is even stronger :/

    First i think thiese changes are good ,its more better energy-focsu consuming even if its dmg again nerfed its ok . Second you cant compare only whit other rouges , because its always one combo who is stronger then others ,and R/S was weakest rouge for a long time . You need to compare to other classes whit similar gear , and i think its now close to some other top combos , but still weaker then some .

    dmg was nerfed?

    You should learn what "Changed Blood Poison to modify Blood Arrow to increase physical damage instead of melee/ranged damage, by 51.8%." in this sentence "Physical damage" means for dps classes instead of "damage" what it was before.

    Anyway, the next patch will balance the class more. The classes should be balanced within all secondary classes. Why should you compare one rogue class with other classses? balancing all classes for every secondary class and then you can balance between different main classes.


    (Yes, there are still rogues who cannot compete with r/s or r/w now. For example r/wrd, but thats kinda "ok".)

  • Fast draw

    Quote from Big Oss

    I think you're talking nonsense, I'm referring to a badly nerfed skill and you're making up some heresy, plus your answer is completely off topic.

    wtf?... the skill is not nerfed.

    Like espar91 said, it is for "pro players" and not for players who don't know how to play properly. If there are ppl hitting for higher chance and you cannot even buff yourself, play another class, where you maybe are "ok" without buffing yourself. Just stop kidding. It's not the job of the DEVs to compensate the incompetence of players

  • Fast draw

    And I linked you a thread, where a DEV answered it.

    There are still ppl on the server, who are hitting with 98%+ so no, there is not a bug in my opinion if ppl proofed it

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    ~1,7kk p-attack with hot stew. Damage don't know. t12 weapon. you see the average damage of all skills. no other rogue have such high hits. Wraith Attack for example sustained damage without buffs ~2kk in trash. Power of the Wood Spirit of r/warden do only ~700-800k with my t15 dagger.

    You see. I don't have double or tripple p-attack of others and with t12 weapon I have even way lower p-dmg.

    My suggestion was to reduce damage of substitute while having 100% trigger chance. But that will be only 1 skill to be changed for balanced. Wraith attack should also be reduce to maximum 500% dps compared to Power of the Wood Spirit

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Nayat (I started a bit late)

    https://gyazo.com/6daa618d1b5f3be100e2212288f46d50


    Khat

    https://gyazo.com/a664320ee35e2a19fc37957adfd9e85d


    (Balton missed to reset)


    Astaroth

    https://gyazo.com/7d596d24d346b0fbddd3010f06ae9ba5


    Overall Scruti

    https://gyazo.com/0cb21565e7e7c9dee2c6f66be9cf01ed


    https://gyazo.com/7832aac65e87312c5a65c430cadafb21

    I still miss some hits because of low gun level xD


    My weapons:

    Dagger

    https://gyazo.com/089a50785619a2e3eb47430c47522de8Gun:

    https://gyazo.com/72754ad743bce846f24f03edcfb35436


    This infos just for clarifying that it does not depends on my "high" weapons. The class is, compared to other rogues, totally OP

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Regarding latest changes of rogue/scout:


    • Changed Blood Poison to modify Blood Arrow to increase physical damage instead of melee/ranged damage, by 51.8%.
    • Changed Substitute to inflict Shot damage with 100% chance instead of 60%.
    • Changed Wraith Attack to have 6% lower damage for each extra target.
    • Changed Fast Draw to do not be interrupted while moving.
    • Reduced Precision focus cost to 50 from 100, changed it to make Fast Draw recover 10 focus upon landing successful attack additionally.
    • Reduced Shadow Figure ranged attack speed gain to 10% from 20%.


    I guess it is the wrong way, if this changes are the intention of buffing the class furthermore. The class was still the strongest and after the patch now, it is even stronger :/

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Quote from Big Oss
    Quote from xLutinex

    here: https://gyazo.com/ea5651193aa6a88c0c658a0baea32233

    50 Fast Draw. 1 was parried ~.~ but parried hits are not listed in scruti


    Edit: Like byte said in another thread (Rouge Scout : Fast Draw Bug). 30% is base miss rate of Fast Draw. You see, that it is possible to increase the chance to 100%. But that's just my opinion and I don't know the rogue very good

    I see it as a bug, or a failed nerf of a skil.

    I think it is a good solution, that at least at 1 rogue there is a need for precision (for example max dex build)

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard


    here: https://gyazo.com/ea5651193aa6a88c0c658a0baea32233

    50 Fast Draw. 1 was parried ~.~ but parried hits are not listed in scruti


    Edit: Like byte said in another thread (Rouge Scout : Fast Draw Bug). 30% is base miss rate of Fast Draw. You see, that it is possible to increase the chance to 100%. But that's just my opinion and I don't know the rogue very good

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Also for you again: A gear with only 1-2 tiers higher and also a T15 weapon is enough for making 3 times damage than other players with same class? Never ever. This class is (in my opinion) the hardest rogue to play (if you would say, it is "hard to play"). Ppl doing less damage than other rogue classes should change anything, because it is not possible with r/s to do less damage atm.


    I mean, if you play the rogue like someone yesterday, only doing Wraith Attack at Balton, the class is weak, yes. But again: change your playstyle or anything. I know what I am saying here, because I always compare MY class with another class of MINE and not with other players.

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    I don't know what you think, but I have only T15 dagger and T15 gun. Ty.

    I also compare the classes I play with other classes I play. With R/S I do way more damage than with any other rogue. I would suggest you change your playstyle or anything else and don't always mention "you have op gear, that's why". It seems like an excuse for not doing good damage.

    If r/s would not be changed, all rogues playing r/s in future, trust me. That's also why you nearly see only r/s now in groups. Not because the class is totally fun to play, but because the class is totally the strongest rogue.



    Quote from TimRoys

    Increase chance "Fast Draw"

    https://prnt.sc/10k7ziv

    https://prnt.sc/10k7zx8

    You need more precision for example more dex. I tested the class a lot and my Fast Draw is hitting with 100% chance

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Quote from xLutinex

    Regarding r/s. still really strong. https://gyazo.com/04d69a5962765df97eba1f1010f99fbd damage till b3.

    I guess still the strongest rogue because of Substitute and Wraith Attack without damage decrement



    Edit: Balton burst: https://gyazo.com/70fce52440b5b15546b538eab9db7bba

    After a few thoughts.

    I would suggest that Substitue should trigger again with 100% chance (more constant damage, not only luck), but with a Shot damage of 200-230%. That would reduce overall damage of r/s a bit as a first change.


    Kind regards

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Strange. if we have a priest and druid in group, the priest heals an equal amount like our druid or even higher. (with equal gear)


    Remove Mother Earth Fountain from druid and this class would be "dead", because nobody would play it anymore: change my mind

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Quote from mrugal82

    1. and 2. There are not situations like that maybe only on Balton it could looks like that if he won't be killed in 20s - 30s. Still Druid could heal everyone because of amount of HoTs. If HoTs can heal all dpss or keeping them alive to reset your Fountain cd you can focus your Recover on tank and everything will be ok. GH still doesn't make Priest flexibility because in situations you talking about Priest can choose Scout or Druid for subclass and then Priest still doesn't have to help his Druid by GH, Curing Shot or Healing Void will be enough and there is no point to use GH.



    Thamks!

    just for clarifying. You are talking about druids raid HoTs. So only D/P and D/S, but complaining Priest can only choose between 2 subclasses for that situations?

    Druids in general (without subclass scout or Priest) does not have any better HoT than any priest class

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    ok sorry. If it is like that, I'll test it hopefully tomorrow. Guess it is fine now then. Was kinda strange on balton-dummy :/

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    I tested a bit at balton dummies and I guess, the nerf of blood Arrow from ~200% p-dmg to 62,2% damage (yes, yesterday it was ~200% p-dmg boost) was too much in combination with:


    - Reduced Shadow Figure ranged speed increment to 20% from 40%.

    - Changed Substitute to trigger Shot with 60% chance instead of 100%.


    For a first change the shadow figure should increase ranged speed again by 40%.Btw Wraith Attack still have no decrement like Power of the Wood SpiritMaybe I can test the class tomorrow in instance.


    Kind regards

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    I would like to see deactivate r/s till next patch.

    Shilard did some good suggestions in my eyes

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    I am a bit sceptic about sentences like "finally destroyed" etc.

    I've seen WL/s and WL/wrd in the last days, which did insane sustain damage compared to gear and other classes. If you outdamage a full golden geared class with full red in sustain, something is wrong. Even if you can oneshot trash mobs with only 2 min CD skills with full golden gear. Never saw other classes can do it. Maybe the burst damage is not so insane conpared to leather/chain classes but you really don't need full burst, if you can burst every 2 minutes.

    I would suggest compare with other players. Maybe you did something wrong playing the class

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Regarding Scout/Druid:


    I would suggest to change the skill Elven Eye (ID: 494327) to increase ranged damage instead of critical damage. This class is far behind scout/r, scout/w, scout/ch and scout/wrd and 3 of those better scouts have raid support which scout/druid does not have.


    Kind regards

  • Class Balance [Patch 10.2.1.1000] & Bard

    Btw we tested all. Scout/w and WL/wrd in all situations. Burst aoe, sustain aoe, sustain single target and burst single target. The WL/warden was always! on top


    It is kinda funny how ppl think WL/wrd is weak. If you can play this class, this is absolute OP. It is also kinda funny that nearly all saying WL/wrd is weak and nearly all mdps playing WL/wrd or WL/s. Nothing more to comment from mine. Only one more fact. A Scout (me) dealing 150kk+ with a snipe fullbuffed on bosses had no chance against the new WL... We will see what changes are coming and how the devs think about the class