Posts by xLutinex

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Hmm yeah. If someone only has 2-3 days a week, now can only do Boss 1 time.

That change is *insert any bad word*

1) Mockingly version: U know this argument is broken. I can say f.e. some ppl start playing after 9 p.m. because they work all day, and you prevent them from trying to beat WB... Now you can answer to me "play earlier", then I answer to you "play 7 days a week, not 2-3".

It's a closed circle, not even funny to make meme of it (is it?xd).

You had your time, really congratz for killing WB, congratz for that 24/7 standing with that shiny title at Atlantis, congratz you spent your time/cash/foods, congratz for puting shield on AH for 200k. But now let others spend their time/food to at least kill it once for that *** title

2) Serious version: In general, I agree that these 3 days are too long and as I read above and 100% agree: each guild should have its own recovery time, example as on DN, when someone closes it. It would be fair, I believe one and only true solution, 24 or 48 hours. You will be farming, the rest will be trying to kill it 1st time. Everybody wins.

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You also had several months to try.

And I suggested a 30 days Timer. Then every guild can try very long, even if 2-3 guilds have it clear.

Comparing with Aldo: there are multiple Channels and only 18 hour buff.

I don't know why the first clear ppl always gets punished in such a way

Suggestion. Change Dragon Slayer buff to 30 days. That would bei great and ppl, who invested lot of time and reported bugs don't get pissed.

3 days is to short

Hmm yeah. If someone only has 2-3 days a week, now can only do Boss 1 time.

That change is *insert any bad word*

OK i say it in an other way: Why need every class to be a good single target burst class? It is good, that some classes have strong aoe, strong sustain or strong burst, but not all at once. If dmg overall is balanced, there is no need to push single burst, because it is maybe not intended to have single burst for this class

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Scouts have the same crit rate like druid/wl and have also the problem with crit or non crit snipe. but overall, the damage is always the same. the game don't need more classes with skills like rogue and mages, which doubles the crit. and every dps class with golden gear can reach more than 25k crit easily

Then there is the possibility to nerf the rouges to lower critical rate also for a BALANCING. but i didnt said that because i dont want to be toxic against the rogues. instead of that i tried to find a fair solution withouth beeeing toxic. for a balancing to a similar dmg as dr/wl. its annoying if you have no reliable damage only in the highest ini. its not what the word balancing say. and if the scout have the same problem its possible to balance them too. post an idea for this class. i think you have a good knowledge about leather classes. Maybe scouts can get also a higher critical rate and a little bit lower weapondmg or lower % to skills but give a lot critical rate instead of that so dmg will be not vary as much as it did before. i have no good knowledge about the leatherclasses its only an example. maybe it wont work. maybe it will. played a few month wow and i like that there a lot of classes that do similar dmg with same gear. it was a really good experience. and i only can say it again. thats what the word balancing means in my opinion.

This "problem" is not a problem. the average critical hit rate with standard golden gear in rofl is above 80% in a full run. That's enough and it wouldn't change anything if you get 5k more crit.

And btw as I said. Rogues AND mages have a skill which doubles their crit for a short time. if you have less than 20k crit with golden gear, then it is maybe only t7 or something like that. with around 25k you should have around 80% in a full run. If you hit 1 boss with for example 60% normal hits, it is a kind of "unlucky" that every class can have

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DR/WL BALANCING

It´s like i already said about the dr/wl. This class really did not need more weapon dmg. It is really good that you buffed this class a little bit cause there are a lot classes that do more dmg but the way that you balanced was not good. the dr/wl has already a high weapon dmg. in tikal and inferno you do a lot of dmg because you reach the mdef of the bosses with your mat and they havent a high critical resistance. so you already do almost only critical in this 2 inis. if you buff the critical rate dmg wont explode in Tikal and Inferno. The dmg in tikal and inferno was already good and now its one of the best classes in this inis becuase the weapon dmg is a little bit to high. but for rofl its not a good boost. The dmg output in rofl vary a lot thats not good. its because of the critical resistance is high at roflbosses and the lvl of the bosses ist 107. If i dont do critical hits to the organ or to balton i do 5kk hits if i do critical hits i do 20kk or more. So sometimes i dont do any critical hits and do in burst 100kk and sometimes i do in the same time a lot of critical hits and then i do 250 kk dmg at the Balton. Its luck how much dmg i do at the bosses because of the low critical rate and the high critical resistance. as example rogue has the possibility to do only critical hits. that why this class usually do a similar dmg if the buff is up in burst. Delete the 10% more weapondmgdmg what you buffed on dr/wl please and add something like 5k critical rate instead of this, A lot of classes that do dmg in rofl have a higher critical rate. it´s an important point to do dmg in Rofl and dr/wl miss the critical rate not the weapon dmg or mat.

Ty for reading my Idea please check it. I play this class a lot and try to analyse it to balance in rofl. Im not a dev but i play this game 10 years, maybe it will work.

best reagards

Itachi

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Scouts have the same crit rate like druid/wl and have also the problem with crit or non crit snipe. but overall, the damage is always the same. the game don't need more classes with skills like rogue and mages, which doubles the crit. and every dps class with golden gear can reach more than 25k crit easily

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This is just a proposition, Idk if is the best or not or even if it will be good for the game but, what im sure is, we need to do something. We can't keep going like this.

I totally aggree with that, that's why I suggested an other idea which could boost the economy for such dirty farmers.

But I doubt, that the AH would be still full of tiers, if you can sell it at a NPC. I would guess, that nobody would sell tiers in AH anymore. (if you cap at 3 x t13 per day, you can also sell with your alt accounts)

Just my thoughts

But something need to be changed

Hello all

I thought a little bit about the server economy and observed for example the auction house prices for dirty and clean stones since the change (a really really good change!) of the arcane transmutor. After the change the people can farm many more stones (clean and dirty) in the same time. This let the prices drops very fast, because a lot more offers in realtion to demands are in the auction house.

But: tiering an item for example from 6 to 10 does not make a huge different from tiering it to 11, except the costs. That's because each tier (6 -> 7; 7-> 8; 8 -> 9; 9 -> 10) gives exactly the same amount of bonus. It is always related to the base tier. That means the higher the people tier an item, the less effort you have. But the costs increasing exponential. I guess that is a reason, why people don't tier higher (buy more stones in auction house or items directly in IS) than before the change of the arcane transmutor.

What will I suggest? The effort of each tier of an item should be higher for each additional tier. Because the costs are always trippled, it could be a bit better effort for next tier, than for the last. I don't talk about trippling the effort for each tier, but some kind of an other function than linear . For example first tier above base tier is 10%, next is 11%, next 12% and so on instead of always 10% of base tier. Or it could be always 10% from actual tier to next one.

I think it wouldn't effect any class balancing, because everything stays the same in a case of such change, if you compare equal gear. Furthermore the people would also see more difference in the classes if they compare with people with lower gear.

Also the people only farming tiers and trying to sell it, could get more "customers", because more people want to buy more stones.

I hope it is understandable, what I wanted to mention here.

Thank you very much,

Greetings

Hi, after a few tests, I want to say thank you for the latest rogue changes. Now rogue/warrior and rogue/scout are an alternative to rogue/warden and rogue/champ and quite decent. Also rogue/priest is ok but needs a mana-regen healer in group, but then it's a good class too in big trash pulls.

Only one bad point on rogue/scout is the blood arrow as a melee leather dps

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Edit: I needed to scroll down to the word and didn't read in the requirements, that the time needed to be screenshoted too (which isn't possible without zooming out )

Also I cannot reset it to get 2 new words but I know my time was around 1min for first word and 3,5 min for second.

I hope you have understanding, that the time in screen is missing because of resolution and not being able to reset

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ch/wl is strong as m/k xD

not my experience, m/k for example in hoto is way above

hoto is a 6 ppl instance and not a raid instance. I speak about rofl.

the main difference between champ and mage is: you need more skill for champ to do good damage. Maybe thats why you dont see many champs anymore

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tbh i dont see your case regarding to ch/wl, definitly not a solid comparission as r/wd or m/k

ch/wl is strong as m/k xD

btw. tested it and testing it now. r/ch and r/wrd no chance vs m/k. totally loosing. Acutally every non-m/k can go afk oO

The latest buff should be changed into a buff for holy light only or something like that, but only for single target, if you really want to buff that class...

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Even when i hate Champs but, without Champ/Scout, there is no champ who can beat me even with better runes and a T16 Weapon. (Atleast in the runs i did).

interesting and funny. Why you wanna compare one class with all others? You know rogue has more than 1 secondary class. if you say ch/s is strong as r/wrd, then compare second strongest class of rogue and champ and not only 1 combination with every other class.

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hi its hard to say but i think rouge / warden is a little overperforming now // I think if you reduce the skill (ID: 499547) from 12% to 10% it would be better

thx and see you

Greetings Luciaa

nerfing it, while m/k got buffed, isn't a good idea imho.

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stones are ok now but i think u should change something with stats we need 5 run for one item and we can have crap xD

its not funny when someone farm one item and have crap stat (mage item and sta/sta) what he can do after this ?buy next item ? 6 ppl if all have mats for one item its 30 x hoto

30x hoto for next crap ? i dont like this

just give stats from last boss like we have in DL

I want to mention that I would support this idea of getting 1 stat at endboss. otherwise it is too much farm to get only 1 random stat that is like tikal (which not even need leather classes for example)

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try m/k. it is a monster now

Tried it one hour before, even with r/w and pulling many mobs, have dwarven ale up to spam your AOEs, you cannot reach the dmg of m/k

Sounds tempting

I guess you mean in aoes or?

yes. and even in single target not far away from r/w

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I imagine m/k got a buf because when all mages got 15% extra static field buff months ago, m/k didn't.

I don't know how the class is performing right now, I'm just thinking that could be the reason.

try m/k. it is a monster now

Tried it one hour before, even with r/w and pulling many mobs, have dwarven ale up to spam your AOEs, you cannot reach the dmg of m/k

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Is it really worth adding dmg m / k to aoe since it has the strongest aoe? Not better to reduce his aoe and add more damage for a single target?

I am also confused, why m/k got light damage pushed. I guess this class hasn't the need for it. There would be other mages classes where a little buff fits better.

But thx for some changes. Need to test some classes now

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Something you also never say: chain classes CAN use leather. Ive seen leather geared people using chain classes doing exact same dmg than using chain gear

That is not possible because dex is useless on chain classes and give exactly 0 p-atk. for example 3-3 dex-str leather gear is maybe the same effective like full gorge str gear (I had this exactly gears, full golden leather and full gorge chain. I even think the gorge gear is minimal better)

Furthermore if you want this specific, leather classes have also 2 tanks r/k and s/k. S/P is in my opinion a dps and not a supp. Btw which mage is a supp? I hope you don't count m/wrl as a supp

But all in all the gap between the leather classes is big. look for example a r/wrd and a r/d. it's kinda you need 2 r/d to do the same like a r/wrd ^^. Don't know if it is the same with other classes

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I cant think of any real disadvantage you have when using the Blood Arrow , except maybe when u do solo stuff xD

That's why nobody plays scout at world boss *whistle*

I would suggest to change the stones to the first version

The latest change of the medusa stones suppose to have golden gear to do so. Weaker player are not able to do this boss anymore. They have tons of def (3kk+ I guess) and now 80kk HP, selfheal and, if I watched correct, you have 2 seconds less to kill them.

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I got an idea to dont make ppl mad if you balancing classes. Only buff classes dont nerf classes. you nerfed a lot and we got enough nerfes. so only buff classes till they do SIMILAR dmg like the best classes atm (r/ch). dont boost them more then r/ch. try to balance them to the same aoe and burstlevel. people wont loose dias cause they need to build new gear if you only boost a little bit and we can play every classcombination all the time. that should be great. People only will be happy and wont get mad cause there is no reason to be mad.

Didn't know that r/ch can wear chain or do damage with mdps gear. strange. guess I need to test

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I you nerf classes to same level and need 5-6 hours again it will let the prices for goldengear explode again. if the ini is so much harder to clear again people cant run it random. I still think its better to boost classes on same level and create a new customini that is hard to clear on that level. Much harder than rofl. im not afraid of teamplay in guild but in randomparties and its not fair to make rofl so strong again. people could already farm the goldengear easier than people who doing it after classes get nerfed then. makes no sense

Before all the balancing started, the classes were much weaker than now, you had much less support (classes, music which isnt raid music and so on). Right now, you can clear rofl in 1 hour with a full gorge equipped raid. I don't know what you think about 5-6 hours if all classes do the same "low" damage like the weakest one, but tanks are not supposed to do a damage dealer. All other classes, even the weakest one, is more than enough for rofl. Rofl is even easier than gorge btw

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Heyho,

I just read the last posts and want to add my opinion to that:

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2) Magical s/m is much stronger than physical, moreover, it is generally too strong, since it only had 1-2 patches, I will not believe anyone that after such a short time it is well balanced

In my opinion that is not true. Indeed he is strong but the physical one is as strong as the magical one and in general VERY strong.

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Sorry but no. You should test yourself and don't compare with other different skilled players.

My leather gear: T13/T14, T13 runes with T15 xbow does way less damage than scout/mage with my mage gear (T12, T10-t11 runes, T15 weapon). With way less I mean something like that my mdps is doing between 20-30% more damage. That are my test results weeks ago after the last changes of the class.

(sustain of magical one is clearly higher because Joint Blow of magical one does way more damage than from physical one, which is the strongest skill. Also in burst Joint Blow of magical one 30kk+ and from physical one maybe 20kk-25kk (very optimisitc 25kk))

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I don't really understand why every leather player complains about that. Of course (in my case) i can say some magical classes are pretty strong. But leather has some very strong classes too and there is no point in bashing other classes while some of the leather ones are as strong too. Scout/warden, scout/druid, scout/mage, rogue/warden, rogue/champion for example are top tier too.

Sorry but Scout/Druid for example isn't strong anymore xD. And I can outdps (in rofl) all of my scout/warden, scout/mage, rogue/warden and rogue/champ with a mdps class with my mdps gear. Whether I am totally noob with my leather classes or kinda some kind of super hero in mage gear. And get in mind that my main dps weapons from leather are 2-3 tiers higher than from mdps gear

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