Posts by robopoke

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Regarding Druid/Warrior

This class is nearly dead because it cannot keep up with any viable DPS class.

While the single target burst is not the worst, it is lacking in sustain single target and aoe (both burst and sustain).

Can you change "Heart of the Wild" (499953) to increase all Axes' dmg not only 2h axe. A faster wep + %PVE dmg from new dps shield will give a needed boost to this combo.

Yes and please this:

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Druid/Warrior

With the latest update on Dex scaling, Leather Druid/Warrior is almost as good as Chain. However, the buff 623080 (5% Atk, 15% Str) biases chain because of the strength bonus.

Also the buff 504526 heals is based on 2.12x Str.

1) Add 15% Dex on 623080 to boost performance of Leather.

2) Add +2.12 Dex healing on 504526

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The description is old and not updated. For example even the part about "Cannot use during combat" is not true anymore.

One aspect that i fount really odd in the Rogue/Bard is the behavior of Premeditation. Specifically, it vanishes upon executing "Combo throw + throw". Conversely, when initiating "combo throw" with any other ability, the buff effect persists for the entire 10 seconds.

Videos :

The behaviour of the first scenario makes sense. But the behaviour in the second video looks like a bug. Is it just a visual bug or not? Does this only happen for Rogue/Bard?

The description is old and not updated. For example even the part about "Cannot use during combat" is not true anymore.

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The tradeoff is some bosses or mobs die so fast that for example Warrior/Scout is better of using high DPS skills. If you know target will survive bleed procs, then Slash early makes sense. But that delays high DPS skills => tradeoff and Player has to decide which macro to use.

If Warrior/Champ and Warrior/Druid get the Update based on your post it is without tradeoff, because no brain Power and decision fatigue needed.

I hope we agree here.

Regarding implementing a fair tradeoff:

Seren actually suggested half DMG with 1 sec Bleedproc which results in equal DPS to regular DMG with 2 sec proc. I disagree with this as well.

I think a fair tradeoff would be your first suggestion but with half dmg.

Or Serens suggestion with 1 sec bleed proc but 25% original Bleedproc DMG (equals 50% bleeddmg with 2 sec proc).

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Yep I totally agree with you in the outcome there for w/ch and w/d, and I would be fine with either one of the suggestions.

My point about wasting 1 gcd tradeoff being a no brainer too is true in pretty much all relatively higher inis like a DC b4 burst or Nom hm bosses… and in those situations is where bleed makes most difference anyway imho.

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Since we agree here a little summary for clarity if devs decide to implement this for Slash on Warrior/Champ and Warrior/Druid:

1) Reduce bleed proc for those Slashes from 2 seconds to 1 second and reduce the bleed dmg to 25% of the current value

OR

2) Stop bleed timer from resetting, and have it proc on target as long as the debuff is active but nerf bleed damage to 50% of current value.

I prefer 1) because I think it would be easier to implement.

Overall this update would allow Warrior/Champ and Warrior/Druid to finally make use of Bleeddmg from Slash but with a tradeoff so they do not become overpowered.

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I disagree 80%.

Other Warriors have to waste a GCD with a weak Slash to get a strong bleed. For example Warrior/Scout has to consider wether to use Slash early or use its strong DPS skills first. There is a tradeoff.

For Warrior/Champ and Warrior/Druid there is no tradeoff. Now, does it suck that bleed never procs in single target? Yes of course! Is the solution to allow these classes to have Bleed damage without tradeoff? Here my answer is a clear no.

Imo there has to be a tradeoff of some kind.

EDIT: Also would be nice that if you talk about flawless Slash that you actually show us a flawless Slash in the Video.

Another hint:

Warrior/Champ can actually trigger Bleedproc in single target very easily but I leave the how to the Imagination of the Chaindps.

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Using 1 gcd every 7-8 seconds to get 30m+ bleeds doesn’t seem like a big tradeoff to me on other warriors I would take that deal all day long.

For w/ch and w/d I agree that a bleed with permanent uptime and no consequences can be too strong and I am open to Seren’s suggestion to half the dmg or other suggestions.

Using flawless slash on my video wouldn’t add any value to the video the hole point is that using 1 slash per second denies bleed from proc’ing.

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The tradeoff is some bosses or mobs die so fast that for example Warrior/Scout is better of using high DPS skills. If you know target will survive bleed procs, then Slash early makes sense. But that delays high DPS skills => tradeoff and Player has to decide which macro to use.

If Warrior/Champ and Warrior/Druid get the Update based on your post it is without tradeoff, because no brain Power and decision fatigue needed.

I hope we agree here.

Regarding implementing a fair tradeoff:

Seren actually suggested half DMG with 1 sec Bleedproc which results in equal DPS to regular DMG with 2 sec proc. I disagree with this as well.

I think a fair tradeoff would be your first suggestion but with half dmg.

Or Serens suggestion with 1 sec bleed proc but 25% original Bleedproc DMG (equals 50% bleeddmg with 2 sec proc).

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There is an issue that I want to raise about the bleed effect on warriors that can use Slash flawlessly a.k.a Warrior/Druid and Warrior/Champion.

I have recorded a video showing the potential issue, and below is my explanation

(Aka and his camel in the background xD Love you bud <3)

So everyone knows that upon using Slash, the bleed will start proc'ing every other second ( total of 8s => 4 bleed procs). The issue is: if you reset slash bleed effect every second the bleed never procs during that time as seen in the video (I am guessing the bleed timer resets on every slash hit, and since bleed has to wait 1 second before it starts triggering, using another slash denies the bleed from starting) this is a big issue on warriors that have a non-gcd slash.

In theory in a 30s burst (on Warrior/champion for example), if your rota is fast enough you will have 30 slash hits but 0 bleed. your bleed will proc in ini a few times only if the boss goes immune or you stop hitting or get cc'ed etc...

I don't know if this is intentional but it feels a bit inconvenient for these classes not to be able to use bleed at its full potential.

Fix: Stop bleed timer from resetting, and have it proc on target as long as the debuff is active.

EDIT: This is the same issue Seren had reported a couple of months ago, but wanted to raise attention to it again.

Kind Regards,

Madman.

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I disagree 80%.

Other Warriors have to waste a GCD with a weak Slash to get a strong bleed. For example Warrior/Scout has to consider wether to use Slash early or use its strong DPS skills first. There is a tradeoff.

For Warrior/Champ and Warrior/Druid there is no tradeoff. Now, does it suck that bleed never procs in single target? Yes of course! Is the solution to allow these classes to have Bleed damage without tradeoff? Here my answer is a clear no.

Imo there has to be a tradeoff of some kind.

EDIT: Also would be nice that if you talk about flawless Slash that you actually show us a flawless Slash in the Video.

Another hint:

Warrior/Champ can actually trigger Bleedproc in single target very easily but I leave the how to the Imagination of the Chaindps.

Regarding Rogue/Knight.

I know that there is change planned in the future with no ETA. That is why I just wanna come with a quick fix with low effort but high return so this class is more playable as Tank before it gets its full update.

Can you make Dismarment an AoE aggro skill? Thats it. Thanks!

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Regarding 1h hammer vs 2h hammer situation.

Currently 1h hammer + Raw Dragon Scale outperforms 2h hammer in every scenario.

The following tests were conducted with two t15 weapons (thanks to Madman).

No relationship buffs, which would push the outcome even more in favor of 1h.

Ch/S

Blood Arrow, dmgfood, Pet, double titlesystem (9% dmg, -attackspeed)

1h: 7.801.045 RP

2h: 7.771.481 Rune Pulse

fullbuffed

1h: 43.229.924 RP

2h: 41.203.677 RP

Keep in mind, all Ch/S ranged skills profit from the 13,44% more damage from talisman, which makes 1h + tali vastly better than 2h.

Ch/M

Power from Within, dmgfood, Pet, double titlesystem(hammer dmg)

1h: 11.029.404 RP

2h: 11.038.737 RP

1h would actually be better than 2h, even in offburst, since I didn't have a %dmg relationship buff.

fullbuffed WITHOUT Elemental Rampage (which increases 1h dmg only)

1h: 93.769.672 RP

2h: 85.751.898 RP

As you can see, quite the difference in burst, even without rampage, since Ch/M has many % damage buffs.

Ch/Wl

Selfbuffs + dmgfood, 7 forgestacks double system(hammer dmg)

1h: 16.214.036 RP

2h: 16.081.244 RP

fullbuffed

1h: 107.518.575

2h: 101.721.561

Haven't tested /Druid and /Priest explicitly, but judging from their buffs we can safely assume 1h outperforms 2h as well.

Since the aforementioned classes won't reach the attackspeed cap either way, there is no drawback to using a 1hander. Quite on the contrary, you get more frequent Shock Overload procs, faster forge stacks, more Chain Drive procs and more patk (offhand).

I don't play R/Ch myself, but I have been told that 1hammer + wb dagger outperforms 2h as well.

The superiority of 1h stems mainly from the much better scaling of faster weapons (that have lower pdmg) with damage nonstats from gear, cenedril buff & robot and their interaction with % damage buffs. The new wb talisman made it even worse.

I'm afraid it is no exaggeration to say that 2h hammers have become useless. To my knowledge, there is no other weapon that isn't best in slot for at least one single class combination. Even 2h axes have their use on Druid/Warrior.

Please make 2h hammer a viable weapon again. Two possible changes that came to my mind:

a) a significantly better %2h hammer damage title for the challenge slot

b) increase Finishing hammer's 2h hammer damage increment

tl;dr: 1h + talisman outperfoms 2h hammer in every way on all Champions, make 2h hammer viable again

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Yes, I also agree that 2h Hammer became useless with the explanations and calculations you have made (thanks for the effort btw).

My anecdote for Rogue/Champion:

2h Hammer is still considerably stronger in fullburst. But for me personally I rather just have 1h Hammer. At least I can use that weapon for Bard/Champion.

Hello again,

IBP HM again. This time with Rogue/Priest. Enjoy!

99 HM

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Regarding Premeditation:

Changed Premeditation: Meditate shortly to make your next 10 offensive spell damage to inflict always critical damage for 10 seconds. Using Wound Attack while having this buff will increase its damage by 50%. Cost: 20 Energy Cast Time: 2 seconds Cooldown: 20 seconds.

pls remove the casttime to a instant skill or reduse to 0,5 - 1 sek / casttime on rouge is not rly nice

I think that the spell time affects the game flow because you can't use any other skills during the spell time

For example, you stand in an enemy group and want to recast Premeditation. You would have to cast for 2 (1.81) seconds once the cast has finished all the mobs are already dead, because you can't do anything while casting

Greetings

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I dont agree personally and I am ready for the hate

With it being usable during combat, it would be too strong because it hast no global CD without cast. This could allow players to save their Premediation exactly before Would Attack for guaranteed crit and 50% DMG every 20 Seconds.

Also Curse Runes, House Maid and Warp Charge can reduce it to 1sec easily. I like this because Leather can keep Curse for Scoutdps.

Unfortunately, Katana Rogues can only use 1 Curserune. So Katana DPS should get a free 20% castspeedbuff imo.

Another Option is if anything to change cast to a constant 1second Channel like Combo Shot which cannot be reduced by castspeedbuffs.

Warden/Warlock is good in Dark Core but bad in other instances. The following observation is based on personal experience and in Dark Core:

It is above average in singletarget sustain damage. But burstdmg is average.

Aoedmg is average for sustain, but below average in fullburst.

Overall the class is ok, but Warden/Rogue is better in most cases.

While Warden/Rogue has slightly weaker sustain dmg, its burst is significantly stronger. If your tank likes to do many CDs and wait alot, Warden/Rogue is better. If your tank likes to just keep pulling, Warden/Warlock is as strong as Warden/Rogue.

Personally, I prefer Warden/Rogue. Reason for that is you can teleport your Pet with Charged Chop, a skill you use every second anyway and has no global Cooldown. Warden/Warlock can teleport Pet as well, but you need to use a GCD Skill that you usually do not use every second (unless your Pet has fullburst vs Boss). This does reduce your overall dmg in sustain situations in areas where you have to run alot.

Overall Warden/Warlock is a good class but it is limited to Dark Core (like most Wardens). It is nice you can give yourself Warp Charge which makes it good for unreliable Warlocks in party or for solo play. Also as a Warden you can absorb two hits fully, which can help you dying less if your gameplay or the tanks aggro is inconsistent.

Also it is a bit harder to play compared to Warden/Rogue, because you have to check position of your Pet while running and teleport it with your GCD skill. This requires you to be aware of Pet position at all times (no pet no dmg).

You can still play Warden/Warlock or other Wardens in other instances, but usually Warriors or Champion are stronger in them. Tbh, even in Dark Core Wardens are outperformed by Warriors and Champions if your Gear and character is endgame.

Surprisingly enough, Warden/Warlock and other Wardens or petclasses are stronger than other Chain classes, if your Gear is bad. The reason for that is your Pet does most damage. But the better your Gear becomes, the less dmgboost you get for your pet but your dps as player increases. At the highend, Warriors and Champ outperform.

Regarding Premeditation:

Changed Premeditation: Meditate shortly to make your next 10 offensive spell damage to inflict always critical damage for 10 seconds. Using Wound Attack while having this buff will increase its damage by 50%. Cost: 20 Energy Cast Time: 2 seconds Cooldown: 20 seconds.

I appreciate it being able to be usable while combat. However, there are three issues that come to my mind after testing a bit:

1) AoE Skills will consume as many stacks as targets hit. So you can literally "waste" your stacks within 1 second.

-> Count AoE Skill as 1 skill regardless of how many targets it hits

2) Whitehits consume a stack as well

-> Blacklist Whitehits so they will never consume a stack

3) After 1) and 2) is fixed, I can get behind the idea of a 10 Stack limit. All Rogue-Classes should be able to get off Wound Attack within 10 skills after all. BUT there is a 10 second timer. So even if 1) and 2) is fixed, it is still almost impossible to get off Wound Attack the time will run out before you can make use of your 10 hits.

-> Remove any timer. A stack limit is enough.

EDIT:

2) Seems like Whitehits do not consume a stack (good) but skills triggered by Whitehits are (for example RP Poisonous Hit or RWl Dark Soul Smelt). -> These should be whitelisted like Whitehits.

Regarding melee Bards (Bard/Warden, Bard/Warrior, Bard/Rogue and Bard/Champion).

They are squishy and die in one hit. Champions, Rogues and Warrior have their specific skill to at least tank 1 hit. Even Wardens have a skill to absorb 2-4 hits completely.

Suggestion:

Modify level 15 Elite to additionally reduce incoming damage by ~25%.

Regarding Scout/Warden.

Combo Shot reduces critical resistance of target by 310.8 points for 15 seconds. After it has 30 seconds cool down.

I don't think I have to explain that this is quite useless. Also Scout/Warden feels very underwhelming as dps.

Suggestions:

Add a DoT effect to Combo Shot similar to Scout/Rogue. This would boost single target sustain damage slightly.

Make Savage Power passive similar to Rogue/Warden. This would boost sustain damage slightly.

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Anything planned for R/S since now with assasins Rage only buffing main hand, mostly all of R/S elite skill are not getting benefit from it.

Yes 100% agree. The skill should boost all damage except offhand. Another option is to consider changing one of the elite to passively boost Gun damage slightly.

In addition I want to talk about Shot. Unfortunately, there is no reason to use Shot because Joint Blow is stronger. But there is an elite Skill for Shot.

A few suggestions (only pick one please):

a) Remove sharing cool down of Shot and Joint Blow. But reduce power of Shot from 601% to 50%.

b) Allow Shot to be a range skill (200) while Joint Blow stays 50 (similar to Scout/Champ).

c) After using Shot you will get a buff. Buff: Next Channel of Fast Draw will not miss. After Buff has been consumed, buff can not be obtained for ~ 20 seconds.

Regarding Warrior/Scout.

This class does not use Sword Breath and Shot

Possible suggestions for Shot (please only pick one):

a) Allow Shot to reflect to another target.

b) Boost Shot dps to the same as Joint Blow but keep it singletarget.

c) Shot recovers 15 Focus.

d) Remove GCD of Shot but reduce its power to something like 50%.

Suggestion Sword Breath:

Sword of Breath leaves a deep wound in the target.

Aim for the wound:

Before: 1332% Range DPS

After: 800% + 800% (if debuff)

Warrior/Scout is already strong just trying to make some elite useful.

Rogue

• Increased Assassins Rage main hand damage gain to 20% from 12%.

Rogue/Champion

• Increased Assassins Rage main hand damage gain to 32% from 20%.
• Changed Poison Feedback to trigger Disassemble with 20% chance with regular attacks when its fully stacked. (requires an hammer)

Thanks for the quick response!

I also want to mention, that Rogue/Champion has been severely nerfed as well:

Changed Assassins Rage to increase main hand weapon damage instead of physical damage.

Before it was 20% physical damage (~30% stronger hits) now it is just 20% stronger hits. This is a nerf of about 8.3% in burst.

So it stands to reasoning to increase the 20% to 30% and of course the 12% to 18% for other Rogues assuming the intention is to only nerf offhand-based Rogues.

Arena of Darkness

• Reduced Nero Millionaire title offhand damage gain to 15% from 20%.

It would be nice for people who bought this title from AoD for this reason that they get back get back 5000 AoD-Coins. Will this be possible? Because now you can just use DC Title 532093 which is literally the same for Badgesystem.

Rogue

Changed Assassins Rage to increase main hand weapon damage instead of physical damage.

You took probably the worst classspecific burstbuff and made it even worse. I understand the intention to nerf Rogues who do offhand damage (RWl, RW and RM) but you also nerfed Katana Rogues. Here is why:

Before it was 12% Damage buff which everybody knows translates to ~15% - 18% increased damage because of dmg from Gear, Robot etc. and depending on how many %dmgbuffs you stack (unique behavior for % pdmg buffs).

Now it is a 12% mainhandweapon buff which means all dmg from Gear does not get affected. So you literally just boost by 12%.

If the goal was to just nerf offhand Rogues I suggest to increase the value from 12% to 18%. If the goal is to nerf offhand Rogues and other Rogues, keep it. But from reading the other notes I assume the nerfs are targeted directly at offhand Rogues so please consider increasing the value to based on the explanation given.

Rogue

Changed Premeditation to increase Wound Attack damage by 50% instead of 20, decreased duration to 10 seconds from 15.

Can you please also fix that in Dark Core you have combat almost permanently? This skill is useless most of the time unless you play Rogue/Mage.

With only 10 seconds uptime and the time needed to wait until tank pulls mobs together, realistically you only can make use of 3 seconds bufftime. Also classes like Rogue/Warden and Rogue/Warrior need to use 2-3 Global Cooldowns to buff up their pdmg/patk before they can even start their bleed rotation. If anything, remove the Wound Attack boost completely and increase duration to 20 seconds.

Another option is to make Premeditation usable in Combat with no Global CD (like Rogue/Mage) and to make Rogue/Mage Elite useful by decreasing CD from 40 to 30. In that case, a 10 second uptime is justified.

With the movementspeed Update, meleeclasses now have a harder time to to dps because Rangeclass can inflict most damage before melee can reach it.

The Champion Class suffers from this the most, because of required whitehits (20 range).

Therefore I suggest to modify Disasembly Mode to additionally increase movementspeed by 50%. With the new calculation formula this results in about ~20% movement speed in most cases which is not gamebreaking and arguably still too little.

Furthermore (slightly offtopic) the main Tank of the party should have more movementspeed as well, preferably by boosting % movementspeed from Hoto/Necro Set.

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Hey! After some small tests, I noticed an interesting bug, namely, when I have a t17 dagger with WB, it has fewer included damages than a t16 dagger with DC when I equip it in the off-hand. Considering the attack speed and weapon damage, the WB weapon should have significantly more off-hand damage. Please check this, and if it's a bug, please fix it

Not a bug. You are comparing dmg, but you should be comparing dps. In your picture The Murk has ~48.6% more dps.

Looking at dmg means that in fullburst, The Nocturne would actually be better. But with the elemental dmgboost, The Murk wins.

This just means your sustaindps is boosted significantly, but your burstdamage is only slightly stronger with the Murk.

If on the other hand you want The Murk to be boosted the same way as Dark Core weapons are boosted in DC, then I guess this is something the devs will have to decide.

Is it intended, that skills like Joint Blow and Vampire Arrow (Range 50) on Scout/Champ do no damage with -42 Range Robot? I accidentally had this Robot active and was very surprised. Interestingly enough, if I use +20 Range Title and increase the Range from 8 to 28, it suddenly does damage again.

This phenomenon does not apply to Rogue/Scout and Champ/Scout so I assume this bug is exclusive to the combination low range skill+Robot+Distand Friend.

I think a bugfix should come in the future with low priority because a Scout should not use this Robot anyway so it never is a concern. But it would be interesting to understand, why this happens.

I have to admit, I am not aware of how much gold is needed to do cards because as mentioned, I do not farm or roll for cards. It seems to me that the gold needed is quite high. I assume this is one of the reasons, I might have less gold problems than the top high-end player with cardsystem etc.

Unfortunately, I am not qualified to give my opinion on the gold topic in that case because I am not aware of the gold actually needed for card system.

Assuming the gold required everyday does not get drastically reduced with free guild tower buffs and thus diaprice for gold does not get drastically reduced, I guess I can see myself supporting this idea. But only the devs know how much gold we are actually talking about and I hope they will make the right decision regarding this.

Personally, I do not farm cards because I choose to not use my time for content, I do not enjoy doing. My cardsystem is also bad, because I do not enjoy the RNG factor with rolling for cards. So technically, I am not a high-end player.

However, if any way farming cards would be fun for me, I would do it. I think you would agree with that if goldfarming was fun, as well. So I do not see how it is ridiculous to introduce fun ways to farm gold.

I do not look at this topic in black and white. There is a gradient of grey when considering any change. I place a big value in the potential for new players being able to farm gold and to sell them for diamonds. Any change that allows highend players to spend less gold will inevitably reduce the need of gold which will decrease the diaprice for gold in AH.

The real question is:

How much goldbenefits (for example via reduced cost) can we give highend players, so that the consequential reduction in diaprice for gold is acceptable enough, that newbies can still make good diamonds? My honest answer: I do not know.

But I fear, that removing goldcost for guildtowerbuffs will move the needle way to far towards highend players.

I think the safest option is to introduce multiple goldfarming methods with max 90kk gold / 60 minutes / person, which is also accessible by newbies. This way newbies can still benefit, and highend players have multiple farming opportunities to fight off boredom.