Are there really that many new players that need help? And if the answer is yes, why forbid unquestet twink characters to do daily tqs like flasks. That change hurt new as well as old players who were farming some gold there. Card system+Guild Buffs+Changing Runes cost me thousands of diamonds per months and it helped getting rid of diamonds from the server (which combats diamond inflation which is the primary currency on the server and therefore more important).
I am really confused.
Here are some thoughts i had:
An interesting way to buff M/Wl would be to make it use a wand + talisman so it has 2 Curse runes which makes it easier to keep its buffs up.
Or make a passive skill reduce the casting times of Flame (ID: 498755) and Electric Explosion (ID: 498756) so you still use the 2h staff.
Maybe make Soul Stepping (ID: 498757) a passive and buff the wand dmg so it makes 1h+tali the same dmg as 2h or lower the mentioned casting times.
-> Casting faster and casting while moving would help a lot.
Ooooor maybe make its main dps spells cdps (however that would probably be a nightmare to balance)
~ kind regards
Mage/Wl needs some love. It is not that easy to keep its buffs up via the 3s cast spells and the payoff isnt really worth it. Furthermore it didnt get a new +wind dmg title like the other mage classes so by default the other classes got a bigger boost in the last year. Doesnt seem to be that big a difference but the other wind elemental dmg classes (warmage and ch/b come to mind) use the cdps formula and therefore dont use the elemental dmg title in the system a majority of the time.
Only taking this class in a raid for its debuff is a little sad to see.
~kind regards
Hey!
I would like to see more variety in mages playstyle. At the end all of them (except m/k and its skill is also the same type) are a constant spam of static field and thats it. They all feel to be the same class. If someone have any idea in mind it would be cool.
In the other hand, I would like to have atleast 1 mage combination that is focused in single dmg.
Try mage/rogue my dude.
Can you back that up with numbers/setups maybe? I did around 25 DC- and 15 Idk-runs with mage in the last couple of weeks and it felt really strong. The couple i did on wl felt awful. But i have a very old gear and maybe i am doing something wrong on the wl classes. Furthermore i personally dont think doing rotations on dummies helps at all. Its always about the raid setups and generally most played classes.
~ kind regards
I would like to do 2-3 runs with you. Maybe I don't understand something... But mages are simply insignificant compared to the best combinations, they simply lack attack. I went to DC as mr, mch, mk, mwl, md and all this is much worse than the same sm even before the nerf. But I am also 100% sure that you are one of the strongest mages here (namely mages). And only one thought appears: there is no dps left in LL - which is also absolute absurdity... GO DC honey
But you saying sm is the same i tried to say. Pre patch MDPS ranking was like this from my experience:
1) Champ/Bard
2) S/M
3) M/S or M/R
But I agree, depending on raid setups and raid gameplay, all our opinions can differ. That's why I'm pretending to play a different game or being in my own bubble, cause I think my personal gameplay differs very much from most others. So warlocks were stronger than mages in dc for me, can't do anything about it
Can't even believe how mage could be better than warlock with "lower" gear unless it was /scout
I am almost exclusively playing mage/rogue and it works very well for me. I get consistent results and it seems to beat out a lot of classes on 4th dc boss with ease. I am in full rofl gear with only DC-weapon for the bonus. Maybe gear doesnt matter as much on mage compared to wl? I have no idea. The times ive seen warlock or tried it myself it was always below the mage/scout or mage/rogue. Same for IDK btw.
However everything really doesnt mean too much without dedicated test environments and then classes scale differently with the various supports and so on...
But it is really interesting to see so many different results and i like the chaos 
Display MoreCool, I'm playing a different game again than most others \o/
Assuming the devs balance around dc AND idk, some changes really make sense imo. So let's enter my different game for a second and simulate as we all would play on the same server... Here we go...
A) Warlocks were stronger than every mage before the patch, but mages were better in every 6 man content, so I assume the nerf of both was reasonable
B) Some specific (very much) overpowered classes, such as Ch/B and Wl/S were nerfed additionally, perfect
C) S/M was nerfed aa few patches ago (lost 5% matt and got little xbow magic damage instead), the class feels like an average mdps these days to me. Nothing really broken, but equal to a bard/mage with just different advantages and disadvantages, but overall same damage.
D)
2) You take 10% dps from the mage, which is impossible to play in endgame instances (except m/s PS if someone decides to mention m/ch or m/r, then come to the dungeon and prove it to me in comparison with me). I will not even talk about the latest "boost" of m/p type connections. And we still remember "-26% intelligence". At the same time, such bundles as s/m, ch/b (mentioned by Noodlez), s/wl and the most juicy for a raid instance wl/d remain untouched. I still don't understand what you are balancing.
You could actually play M/K in there, which was rlly cool too. I'm curious if it's still viable, since I focused on op m/s and warlocks for the last weeks in dc. M/Ch has a shitty matt but is the very best mdps class in IDK imo. In DC it wasn't as bad, too and gave decent support to Ch/B (the same way a S/M supports B/M)...
E) I was testing the Wl/S on dummy yesterday and compared with my past parses. And (excluding the dummy circumstances) turned out it lost like 5.5% damage output overall. Damn, that's a huge impact! Wl/Ch didn't feel any change at all, the 5% feel like the normal variance while parsing (parses differ between +-2-5% normally).
F) Mages on the other hand, feel much weaker through the same 5% nerf. My M/S lost like 20% (should be less in real instance, would assume like 12-15%), M/Ch lost 11% compared to my parses from 3 days ago. So yea I agree, mages need a boost soon to be fine again.
Can you back that up with numbers/setups maybe? I did around 25 DC- and 15 Idk-runs with mage in the last couple of weeks and it felt really strong. The couple i did on wl felt awful. But i have a very old gear and maybe i am doing something wrong on the wl classes. Furthermore i personally dont think doing rotations on dummies helps at all. Its always about the raid setups and generally most played classes.
~ kind regards
Mage/rogue is in a veeeeery good spot at the moment. It has raid support, deals the best dmg type in the game (dark) and has an overpowered burst skill that lets it beat scouts and other burst classes as long as the burst doesnt last longer than 10 seconds. Probably not as good as scout/mage or mage/scout but a little too strong in bursts.
Display MoreRegarding the changes to mdps classes: Mage nerfs are kind of justified i guess. But can someone tell me where the warlock nerfs are coming from? Those were like the last mdps classes that i would have touched imo.
~kind regards
Edit.: Something else to point out is that by nerfing wl and mage you are indirectly pushing scout/mage to be the best mdps period. It is already one of the strongest mdps options and it will get a lot better with the planned generall scout buff of 15%.
Just to make it clear, both classes received total of a 5% damage output reduction.
Greetings
Yes i understand that. And i can get behind those changes in generall. I also appreciate the Champ/Bard nerfs a lot. However from what i have seen and played the Warlocks seem to be the worst choice of mdps. And i just wanted to point out that the Scout mdps classes might get too strong after the Distance Friend buff. They are already very good, with Scout/Mage potentially being the best mdps class after the Champ/Bard nerfs.
~kind regards
Regarding the changes to mdps classes: Mage nerfs are kind of justified i guess. But can someone tell me where the warlock nerfs are coming from? Those were like the last mdps classes that i would have touched imo.
~kind regards
Edit.: Something else to point out is that by nerfing wl and mage you are indirectly pushing scout/mage to be the best mdps period. It is already one of the strongest mdps options and it will get a lot better with the planned generall scout buff of 15%.
D/WL was not for healer gear. It was first designed as mdps with full Int. Wisdom thing came later and it never worked in endgame, it was more of a "I can do minigames and little inis with healer gear". So don't forget endgame mdps with Int should still be viable and for what I saw lately, isn't good.
Saw it on worldboss, looks fine you just dont click the conversion buff.
I dont know if it was mentioned before, would it hurt to raise the arcadia coins cap to 250k or something? xD
Maybe i am missing something here but the 100k atm fill up pretty quickly while running DC and Rofl regulary.
~kind regards
Being Warlock/Warden crashes your game when trying to acces secondary skills via skill book. Works 100 % of the time!
M/Wl doesnt profit from the Electric Compression buffs, since it doesnt want to use it.
Therefore it just looses the 40% static dmg.
A little compensation would be much appreciated here.
"I have played through all the content in the game. Devs make new content for me asap!"
I can see your arguments are as great as your personalities.
Ty so much!
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- Rofl
- hoto sets
- kalin artefacts
- worldboss + stats
- new inferno like stats
where is this nothing for endgame players?
Now they just did a minigame rework, where also endgame players (healer and tanks) have a new title. I don't see any problem with the minigames oO and they always work on new content (for endcontent AND new players / midgame players)
Rofl - after two years it is no content for me
Hoto sets - that is endgame? i have two hoto sets, so no for me
Kalin artefacts - sad 6-ppl nostalgia and i have artefact
WB - once a day 15 minutes, wow ... amazing endgame, and stats are worth nothing to me, I play a rogue
New inferno stats? joke for my endgame too, im rogue
So I will ask what to do on endgame? : D
"I have played through all the content in the game. Devs make new content for me asap!"
W/M
Maybe make Lightning Burn Weapon (id: 490062) increase 2h-sword atk speed by 25% instead of 20% to make it even with 1h-wand.
Display MoreWell at this point i cant really tell if everyone is just trolling with the intention to get their classes overbuffed or something? xD
I havent played a lot in recent weeks, but everytime i played mage was pretty good compared to everyone else in my guild. Some classes obviously stronger than others but nowhere near as useless as warlocks (lol).
I didnt even bother upgrading my gear at all with the new content and was still able to compete.
Awesome, so I just need to join your guild and mage is strong and worth playing again?
Sounds too good to be true
And what are warlocks? Haven't seen this class for 1.5 years or something anywhere.
(this is a troll post)
Yeah i guess.
I think we should all wait a bit, let the changes happen, test each and every class and then come back to give feedback.
Some changes look really nice in my oppinion.
Warlock:
- removing the gcd from Beasthowl (id: 498547) sounds like a cool little qol change
~kind regards
Edit: Ty very much for implementing this change! 
Well at this point i cant really tell if everyone is just trolling with the intention to get their classes overbuffed or something? xD
I havent played a lot in recent weeks, but everytime i played mage was pretty good compared to everyone else in my guild. Some classes obviously stronger than others but nowhere near as useless as warlocks (lol).
I didnt even bother upgrading my gear at all with the new content and was still able to compete.
Since we are doing the the plasma arrow change, can we make energy input(?) (id.: 490218) a passive as well? It is the annoying 187,5 seconds buff.
Why are we so careful about Wl-Buffs in general? The class doesnt really have a spot in anything aside from a couple niche scenarios and your obvious Wl/M Support.
Cant we just go bonkers with the buffs and then keep nerfing it until it has a good spot?
~regards
Now that you are in mage changes journey... can you finally for god sake change plasma arrow into an instant skill (no gcd) with 10s cd? Would be MUCH apreciated
I oppose this.
Timing your plasma arrows properly and keeping travel distance delay in mind is like the only form of skill expression in this game.
Rest are weird cps combinations from others classes but not real mages.
I dont play much, i dont read the forum a lot.
But daaaaaamn i feel this statement.
And for small guilds there is an easy solution. For example let the classes give the old buff below a certain wisdom threshold. But I guess this isnt the answer and totally the opposite of the reason, why the healer got these changes
This is a good option, however what I mean is that in high instances some dps may not let healers run with a certain amount of wisdom or very little, that is why it can take away chances for those just starting out .
If that was the case you can openely flame those dps players. They deserve that.
If you have a gear that has enough wisdom to heal the highest instances on this server, you have a gear that is more than enough for good mat/pat buffs.
