Posts by Madox

Quote from xLutinex

I don't need to explain everyone a class, but to be clear: how the hell can m/ch outplayed in aoe. This class has an elite skill as non gcd which hits every target in range. And being afk at b1? Wth.... My scout/rogue did less single burst dmg than m/ch of kaga.

It's like everyone crying like at the latest mage changes, where every mdps cried mage is dead.... Mage isn't dead. But you can't do top dps with crap gear anymore. It's more like all leather classes now

In general and for balancing mages, it's better now as far as I saw, except some special classes^^

Edit: 1 problem for balancing btw is rofl. Mobs are dieing super fast, even bosses, and with a full raid, you can't compare. 6 ppl are maximum for this instance with golden gear in my opinion

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In single dmg is getting a 35% nerf. Unless you solo a boss in 5 seconds I don't think any class should get that direct nerf ever.

Btw s/r? I only read complains here in forum saying that class is underperforming in single burst (b1, balton...) and is one of worst leathers ... maybe is not the best class to compare 🤔

That aoe require a bleed (3s cd) and the aoe itself has 2s cd. Isn't spammable as other classes. Anyway, that skill shouldn't be the main source of dmg in burst aoe (b2 mobs, lake...). If that is the reason of class being broken in those places then add dmg reduction per target or a limit of 6 targets (should be used in small groups not in big ones). I think the skill was designed more like single dmg push (same as m/s shot) and not as a distance spammable aoe as m/d or m/wd.

About mages needing more supports. Well yeah, it is true. Gotta need to adapt and that's it.

Quote from JockelR

Yes please only mages can decide about mage changes, so stop commenting about leather.

Very good way of going into balancing thx.

I don't comment about pdps because I don't use them. I don't have the proper knowledge of those classes to say where they need a nerf, a buff or which skills should be changed. That should be the way of balance. Listen to the people who actually play and know the classes.

At the end my messages are a bunch of confused faces by leathers who has no idea about the mdps classes i'm talking about. They read the word mage and is an instant dislike. So no, those people opinions shouldn't count on mdps balance same as I won't interfere in pdps balance.

Why is this so hard to understand. Focus on what you have experience.

This isn't specifically about you, is for everyone.

Regards.

Being strong in other aspects as you say has nothing to do with totally destroying its single dmg. What you gonna do? Change gear in organs and be afk in b1, balton and last as we did the last 2 years? Makes no sense, how is that a balance. If one part of a class is strong do small nerfs until is good and don't remove others.

Btw rwd is freaking strong both single and aoe and I didn't see any complains here. Rch has been the most broken class ever since balance started and had good-best dmg in literally every zone and instance of the game. And hey, is still there. Mages didn't complain. That was your job and ofc you didn't say a word.

I'm really sick of leathers getting in mdps balance when we say nothing about their classes. Focus on your classes and leave us alone for once. Thanks.

M/ch

Could you please stop buffing and then nerfing until is useless? With this change class will be again a shame in single burst dmg and organs. A 35% nerf is crazy. Organs dmg was already meh, now it will be one of the worst ingame.

If you wanna keep this nerf in single burst you have to add single sustain buff. 30% cast for 30s. 90s cd. It is needed.

Changed Electric Explosion Expertise to increase charged damage of Electric Explosion to 2800 from 2300 instead of allowing double damage

I think they are forcing us to not use that extra 25% dmg.

Quote from Zyrex

Playing M/Ch now be like:
https://i.gyazo.com/92da10906d3fc593c1f01b3ad6c1abbd.mp4

Hahaha ye it makes no sense

• Changed Plasma Arrow to Alternative Current; Passive: When successfully use an electric spell, you will be in Charged state for 10 seconds. Charged state will provide same effects as previous Plasma Arrow. _{electric spells are Electrostatic Charge, Discharge, Electric Bolt, Electric Explosion, Thunderstorm, Voltage Seize}
• Increased Electric Compression duration to 30 seconds from 20, increased Static Field damage gain to 25% from 15%.

Those electric spells still permanently remove Electric Compression buff. What's the point of increasing its duration to 30s if we lose it every second (m/ch combo for example).

Change charged state to not remove Electric Compression.

Mages can't be even viable without this.

Quote from Brontes

We have considered changing some of the loot to be friendlier to endgame players, but have found that the addition of universal potions, the deposit injector, cards and instance-tier phirius potions to be sufficient.

Sufficient to do minigames 3 days and never come back I guess

Yeah I imagine thunderstorm and others will give rage (instead of plasma). Elite won't do anything else.

Quote from xLutinex

(I think it's better if not all mages don't spam only static)

Can't wait for that moment to be finally true

• Changed Electric Explosion to inflict 1935 + 2328 damage instead of 1935/2328.

Are you sure you want this change to be up for all mages and not only for m/ch? m/s does not need this crazy 3s cast.

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Quote from Madox

Now that you are in mage changes journey... can you finally for god sake change plasma arrow into an instant skill (no gcd) with 10s cd? Would be MUCH apreciated

Its a passive now^^

Edit: I like this^^

Better than what I asked for

mch

Please keep in mind that thunderstorm number of hits reduce affects the passive of this class. In a big pull is 2x15= 30 less hits and that is a ton of lost dmg. Last time static field went from 6 hits to 3 mch got a HUGE nerf and wasn't take into consideration. I hope this time you do

• Changed Voltage Seize to inflict its damage to targets within 80 radius of target. Increased damage to 6291 from 3775.

That skill can't be used on mobs. Is terribly designed. If you try to use the bleed on each mob so you can use voltage seize you won't do any static field at the end. It was really really bad. Only place it works is a target where you hit for many seconds like organs. The bleed skill hits nothing so every time you use it is losing time doing 0 dmg. Please remove the needing a bleed and add 2s cd to this one. Another option is make voltage spread the bleed into the targets around when it does dmg to them.

Another thing about m/ch. It has a so-so organs dmg but only if you use static field. Since it will get nerfed, please reconsider a buff to the 3s cast.

Now that you are in mage changes journey... can you finally for god sake change plasma arrow into an instant skill (no gcd) with 10s cd? Would be MUCH apreciated

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100%.

I've been in 3 different servers, including oficial server. Coming here was the best decision I ever did. Just thinking in going back makes me want to cry

Thank you for your reply. Have you not regreet, to leave behind what you already had there?

Maybe the first 2 weeks xD. This server wasn't that good when I started few years ago and still it was worth. Right now the changes they are making, custom content, class balance, NO CRASHES (heaven)... are things I could never imagine I would live to see and happily I am here now to experience them. Just one regret: not comming earlier .

100%.

I've been in 3 different servers, including oficial server. Coming here was the best decision I ever did. Just thinking in going back makes me want to cry

Hey. I've been thinking about mini game rewards. Stats are really nice, good job there. Cards and the injector are interesting too. We won't need them in a few months so minigames won't be worth again. Sadly, beside this, there is nothing else. 10x charges super randomly and not much more.

I think as rewards they should include some item shop things like a puri, a extractor, a world badge fame... these kind of things. Items we will always need, no matter what stage of the game we are.

Regards, Madoxx.

Byte Question: 1950 instead of 2046. Fail in translation, in notes or at the time of doing the change?

Mage/Druid

• Reduced maximum target amount of Magma Blade to 6 from 15, increased damage to 2046 from 1462

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m/s: pet is totally bugged in all ways.

Could you explain this more detailed, please?

Mage/Scout

• Fixed pet wasn’t inflicting damage.
• Halved Flame of Fire damage. _{pet is triggering this twice with 70 elite, so we thought its a bit too much}

Guess it got fixed in other channel while i was typing xD. I have to test the shot dmg vs pet dmg. It was almost same % overall before 12% pet and 11% shot in most runs, lets see now (in rofl). Dummys test was terrible, 92% shot and 8% pet, I hope when the pet is buffed things change because that was really bad. I'll say when I try in rofl.

I'm super dissapointed with all mage changes.

m/k: static field hits 66% more than stars of light, why use it?

m/wd: using new cast cap buff (vs 2 mobs) static field hits 83% more than the 3s cast, why use it? This feels like a little organs buff, thats all.

m/ch: well... tiny buff but still have worst single dmg ingame (It's fine as long as other aspects are ok and they aren't at all) and meh burst aoe (when this was the good part of the class).

m/s: pet is totally bugged in all ways.

m/d: that change makes no sense. Remove b1 mobs, b2 mobs, lake mobs dmg from this class? It has nothing else decent to use. Other aoes are wind, not earth. I guess remove the dmg decrement and keep the 6 mobs target instead of 15? Would need to do math, idk if big pull would end up in similar amount of dmg.

m/p: many lines of "changes" but at the end is the same thing, nothing changed.

100% of the "changes" are useless, not a single one of them is even worth.

The biggest problem with mages right now is their design. They are slow. Single burst is non existant and extented in 60s when other classes do the same in 15s. Burst aoe need more than 8s when others do it in 2-3s. Sustain mobs dmg was the good part but that is impossible in actual content. Sadly our only hope is that new ini isn't far away so these classes are (I hope) viable again.

Warlocks: That is another question. Mages can be viable for their sustain dmg in new ini but warlocks? They dont't have that. If they are terrible in actual fast rofl I can't imagine how they will be in next ini. Is their fix coming?

Wl/s: it has 3 major problems. Considering is a single dmg class, It is ok that the aoe is bad but single can't be bad.

1. You can't need 6-12s to go back to dps form, that is just stupid. Make shot give 2 psi instead of 1.

2. This class has huge problems to get psi while being transformed, imagine losing them from one mob to the next because we lost combat XD. Losing combat shouldn't remove those psi, same as not transformed kind.

3. Single burst. B1, Balton and last boss. It is terrible. It needs some kind of buff with for example 5 mins cd (so isn't much used in mobs) to push the dmg in those 3 places. There could be other options to achieve that.

Atm our only rofl option is pretty much m/wl to support the others, b/m for mobs/aoe and b/wl for doing dmg in organs and last 2 bosses. Maybe some cps weird class but thats all. Nothing else is worth to use compared to the rest of meta-classes of the game.

Quote from Cruvor

Worldboss:

From what i have seen there are atleast 3 viable options for rogues so far.

For Scouts , i dont see a reason to play Scout at the worldboss currently as the design of Scouts doesnt Fit the playstyle for WB.

I guess it is all about how you do the boss itself. For us any scout is worth to use. Pdps and mdps have their own place and everyone have their own job to do.

For mdps only 3-4 are viable for us. For pdps more than 10-15 different classes are good as hell inside.

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Quote from Madox

Mate, leathers are literally the only ones talking today. I guess your hate to mages as Jockels say must be true. Mdps have literally a tons of useless warlocks, 1 mwl (not good in overall dmg as some people say...) and maybe 1 ms (btw, the pet change is a nerf, not a buff). Rest are weird cps combinations from others classes but not real mages.

So, stop the hate on mages. We are not even talking in this conversation you are having with your (oh surprise) 60 reworks/changes/buffs for pdps.

You write about useless connections. How many of them are on the skin, looking only at the scout, you have 2 strongest connections in the form of magical eq. S / wl and s / m are very strong even looking at s / w. And why is that so? And when the issue of the physical buff is discussed, it is smoke because it will be too strong. I am not negative towards magicians, I just say that there is an unequal balance because the magicians are simply too strong. If you do not understand it, it is worth going somewhere

Damn they must be insane in your partys. I didn't see a single scout mdps in any random party in 6 months. For me mdps are mages and warlocks, those are the pure mdps. Scouts well, I don't care about them, you can remove them if that makes you happy.

1. You write about useless connections.

Those useless connections are 90% of mdps classes LOL.

2. I just say that there is an unequal balance because the magicians are simply too strong.

Since noone say a word about this class, lets remind how strong in every single content r/ch is. For how long? 1 year? 2 years? well... scout mdps being op isn't a reason to say that "magicians" are simply too strong. It's like saying first b/wl made all mdps classes totally broken xD.

Quote from Ramer

Well, magic classes are doing great on 12/6 person instances so it's cool, I fought for a scout to have the same mistake? I can see that the only thing you can write about with magic players here is only about the buff of their classes because the rest for them does not count and they are just trying to spoil the balance

Mate, leathers are literally the only ones talking today. I guess your hate to mages as Jockels say must be true. Mdps have literally a tons of useless warlocks, 1 mwl (not good in overall dmg as some people say...) and maybe 1 ms (btw, the pet change is a nerf, not a buff). Rest are weird cps combinations from others classes but not real mages.

So, stop the hate on mages. We are not even talking in this conversation you are having with your (oh surprise) 60 reworks/changes/buffs for pdps.

wtb 6-0 dex change for leathers

Jokes aside, everytime a new stat, a new system, a new mechanic or any new content appears is creating problems and leathers are always affected in a good or in a bad way. Maybe is time to reconsider and slowly change them to be like rest of classes in game.

Just an opinion, Madoxx.

Warlock/scout:

• Changed Self Awareness to reduce channel time of Severed Consciousness to 1 second from 1.5.
• Reduced Dark Rain channel time to 1 second from 1.5

Thank you! Class seems way more fluid with this. Problem, going back to dps form is still SUPER slow. 5-6s while some other warlocks go back instantly.

• Reduced Saces’ Impatience cooldown to 15 seconds from 20.

I understand that with the old skills, this provide 5 more seconds of psi at the end of transformation so instead of finishing at 20s, it would be 25s. Thats with old skills. With new 1 second channel, we spend all psi in 10 seconds, wait another 10s until we can reuse this skill and is gone in 3 seconds.

If before we had 20s psi and 10s of nothing now is 15s psi and 15s of nothing XD

We will see how this turns out when ale pot isn't on because 15s of dmg and 15s + 6s of pure nothing can't be the solution.

Focus issue. Class needs now to use -20% focus cost as title so it loses 10% dark dmg or wb title. That is a huge nerf. Please make the lvl 40 elite a 15 min buff.

Quote from Madox

Quote from Zyrex

Have you compared bards with druids or warlocks yet?

I compared with warlock/scout the other day and is bad. Not only in dmg but in design. Rofl is just too fast for the class to be fluid. It needs changes. 50% of the time you are trying to get psi and transform into dps mode xD.

I just did a run as m/ch and is 30% under b/m in overall dmg. Balton and last is even worse tho, a pure shame haha.

Gonna try d/wl

b/m vs d/wl. Removing 1 part I died. d/wl is 31.5% under b/m in overall dmg.

B1 single burst, organs, balton and last (no bulls) were pretty much similar dmg in both classes. I imagine all this difference come from aoe burst and mobs sustain dmg.