Posts by Byldi

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Hi,

anyone played Rogue/Priest these days? Feels pretty underperforming comparing with for example m/k and s/w. Not to mention how many worlds underperforming comparing with m/r or d/wl or or or xD

Furthermore you need to use mana potions on cd (which is not enough btw...) and need to call for mana every 20 seonds

I guess patience and salvation should give more than 1% each stack. It was nerfed from total 40% damage to now 15%, which is quite too much tbh.

Solution 1: increase patience and salvation dmg to 2% each stack

Solution 2: increase maximum stacksize of patience and salvation to 25-30 (which only can be reached with 40th elite). so you cannot have max dmg all the time

Greetings

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I checked it once and I also think that it is too weak compared to other classes, the same for r/d

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Every game I have played, the gaming company nerfed stuff. I absolutely hate that. You buy/earn and work your rear off to get better, just to get nerfed. Every game, nobody and I mean nobody is happy getting nerfed.

Yet this game, all kinds of people are wanting others to get nerfed. It makes no sense.

To me this is just crying. Waaa my character isn't as strong as someone else's. Waaa I don't have the strongest character in the game. Waaa. Please nerf everyone else to make me feel better. Waaaa.

I fully admit that there's a lot of details to this topic but no game is going to be totally fair. Especially with people using multiple accounts and others using bot accounts. Then there's hackers.

Also, in this type of game each character is going to have strengths and weaknesses. Some characters are just going to be stronger than others. Fighters will always do lots of damage and have great health. Mages will always do tons of damage but can die easily. Priests can heal but can't do tons of damage.

Find a character that fits your play style and stop worrying about others. If your character isn't the strongest, then make it stronger or play the character type you think is the strongest. If you're a scout then be the best scout you can be. Try for being the best scout in the game. Forget about everyone else. So what if someone else does more damage than you. So what if someone can heal more damage than you.

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In this thread, it's not about changing the roles of the classes and making DPS lessons only about Balance DPS or heals. Most of the players talk about which class needs to be strengthened and which one needs to be weakened. If someone does not understand this, he should not comment here. And in this class balancing the idea is to be able to play each one and enjoy the game on your favorite combination without weakening your team. Players who don't care about the best instances won't get it. When going to a new, theoretically most difficult instance, you need to have the strongest team possible, and not everyone wants to be forced to play only one or the other given beating or healing class only because it is stronger, the point is that all of them should be fairly equal and then everyone can enjoy the game. It is known that the beating class will not heal, and vice versa. It's time to finally figure it out.

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because everyone is proggramer in lua and know how to do it

like i wrote:

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yea there are hidden mechanics that are known by a few, and normal players do not know these mechanics so they play the best they can but will never go closer to these few... this is next problem...

question is how to balance this if there is any possibility to balance it...

there is no possibility to balance it if u dont know tricks in lua, i know exactly what i want to achive but i dont know how to do it by lua... and i dont have lots of money to hire proggramer who will teach me how to do it...

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Wait!!!!! Asking someone about a class is something completely different from getting some macros/luas.

You NEED to understand your class and not brainafk click 1 macro.

Furthermore why should someone, who invested weeks to create a lua, should give others it for free? Imagine you give your lua to 30 ppl -> 1 class balance patch and several classes need adjustments in your lua. 30 ppl complaining you, bcs it does not work anymore. A Nightmare

Go learn to understand your class and then you can use kitty combo and make a rotation for your playstyle, not for others

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i dont complain that u dont want to give ur work for free, i complain that not everyone can achive it, so nerfing class overall because some can achive big results because they know how to do tricks in lua is not fair...

please, lisen this: "because 10 people on server do tons of dmg on this combination, we decided that all 100 players that play this class will do now only 50% of this dmg, (so other 90 players that cannot achive this tons of dmg and was doing only 30% of top 10 players dmg now will do even less)"

where is there logic? because i'm the best and do cosmic dmg, plz nerf this class, i dont care of others that like this class but cant achive my dmg... there is only me and my dmg, **** them, if they cant achive my dmg they should go play tetris...

ps: i know noone told that, but for ur(ur means all who cry nerf nerf nerf not only one person) all cry nerf this nerf that we can read between lines that u mean exactly this

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Are you saying that class balancing is to be done for players who cannot play with them? I do not use lua and I do not see the need for a kitty. But a well-written kitty will not make anyone learn to play. You need to read your skills and understand how to use them. Only then can you write your own kitty that will suit your style of play. When I started my adventure on this server, I have never used a kitten before. But it is quite easy and you can learn it quickly with a few hints from others and you will be able to do it yourself. I think people in the guild will tell you what and how. I recommend that you sit a bit on your skills, go for mannequins and see what is best for your class, what combination of skills and it will pay off for sure.

As for the rogues, I don't think any of the connections are too strong, on the contrary, looking at other classes, especially magic ones, which are much more powerful. But maybe that's just my feeling. Maybe I am doing something wrong and I am not able to use the potential of my class. As for the alignment of classes, it is also difficult because people have different opinions on a given class because they run with different players who do not fully use the potential of their class. As for the D / Wrl, I think it should actually be weakened from 10% at the beginning as I tested this combination. I exchanged my equipment for a while with a friend from my guild and I find that not having such a prepared character for mage equipment, I deal comparable or even more damage than on my rogue. It is not true in every situation, because on my r / ch I can take more damage on a single target, but maybe I do not fully use the potential of d / wrl because I have never played magic classes before. In addition, this borrowed equipment is weaker than my leather one. For these reasons, I think that d / wrl should be slightly weakened

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S/W , WD/S , WD/D

you must have played with a very weak d / wrl if you say so. D / wrl is the first class that should get a damage reduction. At this point, it beats large groups very strongly, and so does the single target. Moreover, it requires practically no effort. and doesn't need any set skill. It should not be like this

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Hello everyone;

First of all, I want to talk about support class. Don't you think the support classes are very easy to play?

Wouldn't it make more sense for the Warlock/mage class to go back to 2017-2018 and be a little harder to play?

I loved playing wl/m.When I came back to the game after a long break, I realized that this class comb. was very easy. That's why I can never have fun.I think dwarf beer should be banned for wl/m class comb.Requirements for their skills should be increased. I'm waiting for support from friends like me who play support class so that it retains its old value again.

Please don't mind if my english is wrong. See u soon.

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if you really think being smart wl / m is easy, then I have to disappoint you. People who play this class (as a support) at a decent level, prevailing in the minority. Good DPS in a group in the leg is based on the skills of this class and of course the professionalism of DPS

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It seems to me that a good buffer in a random run is to look for it with a candle. Most only go for a drop. Most people don't use their basic skills, let alone buffs from wars and instruments.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

I don't like the idea with stars. You are really combining a lot of changes and the effect is the same. Still no one likes it. Make it so that a card once dropped can be used in 3 decks and, above all, reduce the price (the cost of making a card is the biggest problem of this system). Instead of giving new entertainment to players who try to maximize everything, it only causes frustration and reluctance to play. It should probably be the other way around

I can spend diamonds on upgrading cards, but in a decent amount

Alternatively, you add a stone that maximizes all the stats on the card for promotion in the item store for about 250-300 diamonds, it would be cool for me. Randomness would have to be obtained the appropriate statistics on the card, but you could maximize them all with one stone

Today I started to upgrade cards after the recent changes and I find that I even like the system apart from these three sets of cards. Probably there will be no person who will collect 2 sets of cards, many of which are unique and hard to get.

I tried to max out one card to see how much it will cost me and be careful to get these values on this https://gyazo.com/2580bfea0b059da2886111b28bd0ebd4

I have spent 2,500 diamonds and the card is not maxed out.

I understand that the server must earn money, the game must earn money, but let's not exaggerate when you can deal with all the cards, the cost of making 1000 cards will be 2,500,000 diamonds. Anyone wondering how you did it? I think this is greatly exaggerated. I understand that some will be able to max the card for 1500 diamonds, others will have to spend 4000 diamonds, it depends on luck, but the prices are still exaggerated. reduce the costs at least ten times which will give you a very large profit anyway. Give the opportunity to use once earned cards in all 3 decks and the system will even be quite nice.

If something is not understandable, I apologize. My English is not the best.

As for the monster cards, if you can already have 3 different sets of cards, does it make sense to have magic, physical and defense cards? And wouldn't it be worth going back to the original statistics on the cards? Their reduction somehow motivated me to do them.

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Actually i guess we dont need to talk about that some classes are completly broken. But just keep in mind. As R/Wd you are allowed to do dmg, while other ppl still are running and try to get position well. You cant beat a good R/Wd with same gear/support when he know what he do in trashes or trash pulls or its alteast hard. In MY opinion.

Sadly, you just compare with strong Pdps classes.. Pls compare it with some xxxx Magical classes. Like M/Kn or S/M (magical one)..

As i remember, m/ch was still viable and we got some players in our guild who played this class pretty well, and perform really good in overall dmg. And Always look what Support your pdps had.. I mean if it is like S/Pr, full sw titles its really hard to keep up with as an non meta class. Cuz you do not benefit that much from those buffs as mage.

S/dr, Ch/wl - Still to OP ofc. R/Wd, R/Ch is ok and there are mage classes who can beat him easy. I dont know about Warrior classes, but they looked ok. Atleast the one you called.

Greetings

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Hmm I never run with any other mdps, all partys have only pdps so use other mdps class to compare would be only theoretical and not in same conditions for me. M/ch is better than d/wl if thats ok for you

- M/K: Does not have good aoe anymore (burst atleast, b2 mobs and lake which is my whole post). Last patch got huge nerf on it so can't compare anymore.

This being said, I can only compare with other pdps I see in partys which are the list I said above. Now you are saying I can't compare my non-meta mage with any of the pdps because most of them are strong/op/broken? Well,I don't see anyone asking for nerfs here if they are that strong.

M/ch only purpose is aoe, it should have the strongest aoe in all mages and also should have one of the strongest in all pdps due to it being useless in balton, astaroth and any single dmg situation. So sorry but no, pdps having better aoe than this class (supports or not supports) when all the list I gave have incredibly good single burst in balton/astaroth doesn't seem fair to me. I guess people won't have the usual excuse of "this is a support class, dmg is enough".

But thats my opinion tho.

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It seems to me that we play on two different servers after what you write about M / K. On a full flight of the Kingdom of Forgotten Legends it is impossible to catch up with M / K on my R / Ch. And this is one of the Rogue's strongest connections

In my opinion, in order for the combination of R/Wrl to be equalized with others, he should get some area skill. I would like the double throw skill to be more used, maybe change some elite skill so that the double throw does not have a global cooldown and works like a reflected shot within 80 range? You would probably have to reduce the cooldown time of this skill, but that's all for testing. I think it would be a nice change

In my opinion, when a new Instance with better equipment comes in, the ratio of dexterity to physical attack for rogue and scout should be changed from 1.3 to 1.8 attack. Most of the dex / dex stats are practically useless right now. And the prices for stats with dexterity are practically worth nothing

In the summer of 2021, I went on a trip to visit my family. The destination of my journey was my uncle's house in the village of Tomara, 50 km from the city of Dalanis.

When I was packed and ready to travel, I got into a taxi which took me to the nearby station. The journey was supposed to take about 5 hours by fast train. As I sat down in my car, my attention was drawn to strangely silent and pale people.

After about 3 hours of driving, I heard a strange story told by the two men sitting opposite drinking some drink.

Best of all, the subject of their stories were strange events that took place near the village where my uncle lived, in the forest and ancient ruins located there.

The swarthy, sad man told another man that for about a year now strange noises had been heard from the ruins, frightening, chilling noises in the veins, and a strange fog was rising over the ruins. Apparently, at the beginning, residents heard these noises approximately every 3 months, but recently the frequency of strange sounds and roars has increased and you hear them every 30 days.

In this moment a second man intervened and said that these sounds were apparently made by two legendary dragons "Zgargos & Phargos" and then there was an awkward silence that lasted until the end of my journey.

After reaching my uncle's house, I immediately asked about this story and, to my surprise, my uncle confirmed everything. I decided to go to the ruins and explore it all, and when I find out something, I will inform you about it.

To be continued...

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Now I don't know if we are talking about the samerun. Because if so and you came for b2, I disagree even more that w/r is too weak

I said, I switched the class after b2.

I misunderstood what you wrote. But despite everything, my experience and feeling with run with this combination is a bit different.

But I think the more people write their opinions the better.

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Maybe the other Wariors are just too strong? After a few flights with Bestdps, Ramer and the later with you, I don't think the this combination of classes is too weak. It seems to me that your equipment was not fully golden and the difference in the entire flight between us was not very significant.

But that's just my opinion, maybe your feelings are different in other team setups

don't know if you realized it, but i switched after b2 ^^. doing 50% or less than other classes, even if i miss 4 golden items (but have higher tiered weapons btw) is a bit underperforming in my eyes

Now I don't know if we are talking about the samerun. Because if so and you came for b2, I disagree even more that w/r is too weak

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Hi,

I think warrior/rogue is a bit underforming in the current state. You are forced to use 1h weapons and reach the attack speed cap easy compared to other warriors. For example warrior/champ out-dps the warrior/rogue even in AOE. I want not to speak about single target sustain, this is a joke on w/r.

The AOE damage is not really bad, but if other warriors can do same AOE damage and do far more single target, the class definitly a slight buff

Greetings

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Maybe the other Wariors are just too strong? After a few flights with Bestdps, Ramer and the later with you, I don't think the this combination of classes is too weak. It seems to me that your equipment was not fully golden and the difference in the entire flight between us was not very significant.

But that's just my opinion, maybe your feelings are different in other team setups

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I dont think so, the balance is not even close to ending, in fact i dont think it will ever end.

For example for the mage there are 9 combinations, but only 2 or 3 are used.

The other combinations are not used for obvious reasons, little damage compared to the most used classes.

The same thing happens with the other classes, the player who is dps will look for the best class, but if 99% of the server use the same 3 classes, its is because there is no balance.

Surely someone will say " in my guild there is a friend who use mage priest and does a lot of dps", but that friend when he goes to a mixed party will use (mage scout) (mage rogue) (mage warden), and what about the other combinations?

And this is just one example, but will also have the 9 combinations of (rogue, scout, warden, warlock, champ, warrior, priest, druid, knigth). Think about this, of these named classes why only 2 or 3 are used?.

I think there is still a lot of work to do, not only in increasing the damage to skills (for class combinations thare are not used), i also think that some skills should be modified to do something completely different, make interesting.

I understand that the developers worked a lot until today and the effort is appreciated, but please dont close the balance yet, there is much more to do. Thank you

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As for me, it is not possible that all classes will ever deal the same damage.
And it seems to me that it is much better than before because there are no such big differences as they were. Most combinations require subtle changes.Looking in terms of the highest instance currently. When a new instance comes in, everything can change.

It seems to me that the class balance is closer than ever.

Of course, it still requires some subtle changes.

For example, R / P requires a slight boost because it fares worse than other rogues

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In my opinion, this is what this balance is all about. Seasons for new connections where you need to make new weapons. At the beginning, the connection will probably be too strong, people will make weapons and it will be weakened.

This was the case with almost all connections that were rebuilt.

i don't think classes that are using rare weapons such as gun, 1h axe or weapons that aren't related with the main class etc are getting weakened. r/ch, s/ch, r/w, w/r, d/w are still top tier dps in my opinion.

My point is that they are always exaggerated at the beginning. And as for these classes, most of them were already too weak, only got reinforcements again. Read the latest changes

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Warden/Rogue

• Changed Walker Spirit to Broken Asymmetry; Your skills will inflict damage again by using your offhand weapon, and increases 1-H weapon damage by 8%.

You seriously want to force warden/rogue to have 1h weapons? Cause if that is your intention i would say that this is hilarious, unnecessary and infuriating.

In my opinion, this is what this balance is all about. Seasons for new connections where you need to make new weapons. At the beginning, the connection will probably be too strong, people will make weapons and it will be weakened.

This was the case with almost all connections that were rebuilt.

And for me it's already irritating and this balance and character rebuilding takes way too long.

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Okay, a few more feelings from me. (again )

After the patch, I spent nearly 3 hours losing a total of about 50,000 diamonds, a huge amount of souls, 4 buckets of nerves and 800kk gold.

And that's what this System is all about.

Good job

The best for Rogue, after buffing, is 4 x dex and 2x str stats, assuming you put the highest stats.

But if you want to play a scout, the best stat there is 3 x 3.

You have to think for yourself and decide what will be best for you

In the card system, it was enough to add cards in instances where they are missing and add some zone bonuses. It would be enough and for me it would be more motivating to have all the cards in the zone.

Now this is another system for me made to rip money away from the player.

I understand that the game has to earn money etc, but not this way.