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"using it will put every skill, which are changing casters form, into 20 seconds of cooldown state." doesn't it mean you can't change form after using this skill?

@Lutine

elmo: I guess skills like demo-mode will get into CD. But you can cancel Shield Form ( I guess maybe?). Didn't play champ for a long time. There are other ISS which get you out of shield form and let you have no mode. If those ISS don't get CD, you are not forced to stay in shield form

well i understand part of "every skill" means everything that can somehow change your form, so maybe you can cancel shield form, but won't be able to turn on it again for 20 sec but we will see, and even after this patch we only would need to report all those unwanted dependencies

"using it will put every skill, which are changing casters form, into 20 seconds of cooldown state." doesn't it mean you can't change form after using this skill?

So caster is forced to stay in shield form

@Lutine

Hello there

Wd/W:

Skill "Frantic Briar" ID: 1490330 have desription that says "if Spirit of The Oak is summoned, it will icrease damage taken of targets by 10% for 15 sec...." but effect it provide on targets gives only 6% damage increament.

Plz fix description or skill effect.

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Reduced Whirlwind cooldown to 1 second from 2, reduced MP cost to 3% from 5%.

Whirlwind doesn't have any Cooldown.

it have CD, it trigger 1sec global CD

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can you do other things pls? pls stop with this balance for 3-4months for me this is big problem 2much changes in short time

Future of Chronicles of Arcadia

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PvP Rework: planned for Q3/Q4 2020.

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New Worldboss: planned for Q4 2020.

PvP Rework: delayed for Q1-2 2021

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New Worldboss: delayed for Q1 2021.

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New Worldboss: delayed for Q2 2021.

PvP Rework: delayed for Q2-3 2021.

When new WB and housing patch?

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Hello there

As i think Grox said once, different people do different things, so balancing process don't have to have something with other features.

another thing, plz nerf m/s somehow he still overperform (in my opinion) compared to other mage class combos.

Greetings

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I will ask only one question , are you kidding me , you are taking one more leather combo and making one more mdps combo?????? If you realy want to remove leather from game just say so bcs we have less and less options ..... So now when you took s/m, as scout you have only 6 combos now to play, which one is S/K , and i didnt saw anyone to play that combo ... Pls can you explain this change for S/m and why one more mdps combo ,or why 1 less leather combo ?

i think there is nothing to be mad about bec we have no clue what this combo will be looking like, maybe dev can give us some hints about what this class is gonna be?

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It wasnt directly targeting you, but more likely on the general. I feel like many people (not everyone!!) only compare the overall scrut and are mad about a singletarget class not being #1 which will not happen on a fair battle in RoFL, continue to go to the forum and ask for buffs on their trashspells. I think there are many hidden raidcombos which can make rofl runs insanely fast. Maybe a good balance of aoe + singletarget + dps/support ? Idk. But in a game like runes, with how many classes, 90?, some classes will always perform better than others in certain sitations. this doesnt mean those classes suck and should get buffed, but rather that theyre not played well or the party combo isnt good for this class. A AOE class will perform better in a party with 2 other aoe classes than in a party with other 8 classes. This run the class performs low, the next run it performs better. Its always depending on other party classes, and the tank. Different tank players/classes have different ways of tanking.

well in general you are right yet problem is that there are classes that are op both in aoe and single target, so there we can't just say "pick something that is good in aoe or good in single" only becouse of those few classes that destroys everything mo mather if it is single or multiple enemies.

Current endgame meta is hardly based on aoe fights, trash is 90% time of instance, bosses can be fought endlessly (b1, b2, b3), or just dies insanely fast (b4), or can be both xD (b5). and even on those few moments when we have single target burst fight, single target focused class combos can't show that they rlly are single target based xD.

that is why probably ppl whant to boost some combos that way or another.

BTW. s/p Shot still trigger it's buff without 15sec cd after buff ended as it says in skill buff desription

Scout/Priest skill buff "Dums of War" ID: 493010

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A level 100 Belrog from a pdps player (rogue/warden) does similar damage compared to M/S pet.

so you mean using m/s pet makes no sense? because my cenedril is always doing similar damage either as mdps or pdps. (approx. 400-600kk in a 70 min run)

m/s pet while summoned gives %mdmg boost and %castspeed for caster, pet is not only source of additional dmg for m/s

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Is WlK not using spells every second? My WlWd tank for example uses CC or PotW on cd or channels stuff, but the change would be okay for the class I think. So if I understand right, you just need to do "something" to trigger the Soul Crusher hit. Is WlK different in some way?

Wlk aoe have 40s cd. Don't have cc or whisper like wlwd. There is nothing to spam, just 1 single skill which does no dmg and need focus. We are always close to 0 focus even if we had something to spam, we couldn't. Besides, all rest of skills have no aggro multiplier so unless you go full dps or have all dark buffs on, their aggro is nothing.

Soul Crusher is the only reason why class is viable in mobs if you reach good mattack.

so for me it's not problem with soul crusher but with wrl/k itself xD

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Imo this class is fine the way it is. Its not op like it was before and its not garbage. Its damage is great and with the right buff food and ur self buff, mana isn't really a problem so I think the way this class performs now is really good. You don't have your maximum damage every 1.5min but you still have a good off burst and if you have all of your buffs ready, this class still can do a lot of damage. Anyway, thats just what I think. Did you test it? Whats ur opinion?

Greetings.

Thanks for answering

For me is underperforming. This class aoe was never the brightest thing but it had incredibly easy and fast single dmg. Now the aoe is as bad or even worse than before (30 to 50% lower than any of my mdps) and the single can't make the difference anymore to reach the overal I get with others since is reduced in time and by around 20% less dmg full buffed. It breaks my heart but it joined the club of weakest classes

well i feel like d/r became slightly lower than average dps, yet i see it more like great supportive dd.
d/r have acces to some nice druid set skills like combat rezz + trap clean, and also can provide great support in terms of resourse management of party members + perma crit buff + single target crit debuff.
That's why i think even if his dmg isn't top tier yet this combo is still rlly good i terms of raid usefullness

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Regarding Warrior/Priest:

Please consider changing Berserk to increase damage dealt instead of physical and magical damage. The buff currently benefits melee classes more than any other and makes comparing classes difficult.

Wasn't this applyed in patch 10.4.0.2014:

Warrior/Priest

• Changed Berserker to increase damage dealt by 7.9% instead of physical and magical damage.*

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Scout/Priest skill buff "Dums of War" ID: 493010 do not have 15 sec CD after skill buff ends as it is mentioned in skill description. Plz fix description or skill function.

Priest/Scout Fairy skill "Frost Halo" ID: 493278 gives it's 10% Elemental Damage increament to whole raid members instead of only owner. plz fix skill effect

greetings

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I just experienced great dissbalance between mdps(mages) and pdps(rogue) in rofl. (T13 gear XIII runes t16/t14 weapon) experienced rogue could not even compete with lower geared mage classes (m/d, m/ch, m/s) and those differences were at the level of i think abou at least 4 - 5 tiers in eq.

Maybe consider lowering mages another % value like it was done few pathes ago with all classes?

i agree, please buff rogues or nerf mages or do both together

edit: i suggest removal of elemental knowledge passive

cheers

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or maybe nerf it step by step and of course give some love in terms of nerfing dmg of top mage combos

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I just experienced great dissbalance between mdps(mages) and pdps(rogue) in rofl. (T13 gear XIII runes t16/t14 weapon) experienced rogue could not even compete with lower geared mage classes (m/d, m/ch, m/s) and those differences were at the level of i think abou at least 4 - 5 tiers in eq.

Maybe consider lowering mages another % value like it was done few pathes ago with all classes?

What did you compare tho? The whole-instance dmg? if yes, mdps will always win. RoFL is super AoE based, not single target. Mages > Rogue when it comes to AoEs. Yes, rogues have some aoes aswell, but mages are better in aoes than rogue. If you compare bossdmg only, Rogue might be better tho. Not 100% sure but incase you want to compare stuff: always take both advantages of the class, and not the advantage of one class and compare it with the downgrade of the other class.In that case, dont compare mage aoe with rogue aoe, but instead with singletarget dmg/burst. That way, you combine of both classes strength

P.S.: i didnt do any tests, this is just my thought

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i say about everything rogue got destroyed even in single target burst at balton (m/s flame spirit dealt 4x 20kk flame hits xD )

I just experienced great dissbalance between mdps(mages) and pdps(rogue) in rofl. (T13 gear XIII runes t16/t14 weapon) experienced rogue could not even compete with lower geared mage classes (m/d, m/ch, m/s) and those differences were at the level of i think abou at least 4 - 5 tiers in eq.

Maybe consider lowering mages another % value like it was done few pathes ago with all classes?

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Greetings,
Regarding p/s from a healer perspective:

This class has still all of his elite skills which made it a class with a very strong heal output. If you would adjust the current damage skills he has to make it a viable mdps class this class is still a very strong healer with only 1 equipmentslot switch.
A lot of people complained about the ch/d beeing this viable in support, heal (basically everything). I don't know if this class is currently viable with it's skills or not because 1st: I don't play mdps and 2nd: I think no one tested it by now in rofl so therefore there is no feedback in here. But if it's viable we would have kind of the same problem as with the ch/d which would be suboptimal for the class balancing.

I would suggest, if this class should be a mdps to change for example:
"Saint's Blessing" (ID: 493039) to let Shot, Joint Blow and Vampire Arrow's to deal mdmg to have more skills to rely on?
"Curing Shot" (ID: 492636) to an aoe or another single target skill with maybe more basecast to have better burst dmg?

These are only examples from my healer perspective. Maybe the active mdps players could interfere here with me but I don't like the changes about having a viable dps and with 1 equip switch a strong healer.

Kind Regards
Nghty

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dfference between ch/d and p/s is that you don't need to change anything in ch/x eq to be viable as ch/d healer/supp. but to be usefull as p/s mdps/heal you need two different equipments.

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Changed Poisonous Widow Embrace damage value to 342.8% + 10 x 34.3% CPS dark damage from 5570 + 10 x 557, reduced energy recovery to 3 per hit from 2 per critical hit.

How is that a decrease? Before it was 2 energy per crit, now it's 3 energy per hit in general (no matter if crit or not)? Or does it now only trigger if I don't crit?

maybe wrong desrcription?

Hello there,

And here we go again with "my truth is better than your truth". Every one of us have different experience and playstyle, so maybe don't make statements like "you are wrong becouse i'm not wrong"?

What we know is that making equalisation of all dps class is damn hard thing to do. And only thing we should do i thing is to give OUR OWN opinions + maybe some screenshots of scruti or something with comment, like "this run was like that and those classes manage to deal this much dmg, i think it's ok/not ok"

So about mages:

feels like main problem(?) of top mages is that they spammable AOE/splash skills are bit too strong. Maybe Devs should look at them and reduce it's dmg slightly?
oh and for m/s i think that after last patch his dmg output overall didn't change or maybe even got higher? What was taken by nerfing Cathalysis (-20% aoe dmg) was given back by fixing Flame Spirit speed. What about nerfing spirit's dmg a little?

I have question to:

Mage/Scout

• Changed Fire Rose to do not trigger global cooldown.

I played as m/s for long time and what i experienced is that this skill already don't trigger GCD or maybe i'm missing something?

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ok nvm it got changed

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Well maybe it needs more testing but as you mentioned castspeed is important, so wand+tali allows you to have 2x curse XIII. Then i'm not sure about 2h being beter than 1h + tali

During your burst you don't need the second Curse rune because your at 0.5 Castspeed anyway. And (in my case) since my 1h is 2 tiers higher than my 2h staff the curse rune doesn't even compensate the damage loss. If there was a Talisman with elemental damage (*Wink* Worldboss?) maybe it would be better but since ur main damage skils deal wind damage, a fire talisman isn't really usefull.

I tested the Warmage yesterday (and will today) and I was really surprised how well he performed Aoe damage wasn't as terrible as I remembered (it was pretty decent tbh) and burst and sustain were quite good.

Greetings.

Wasn't w/m dmg formula simillar to s/wrl where (if i good remember and i'm not horribly wrong) even excessing castspeed cap was giving boost o skill dmg? Not sure in what patchnote it was mentioned but i remember something like that, but if not then ok.

Greetings

Edit.

Found it: 10.4.0.2008 ((Cast per second skills (same mechanic used for Scout/Warlock elites) are considered as 3 seconds casting time skills which will gain damage until their imaginary cast time hits to 0.5 seconds limit.)

so yea you don't get boost in dmg after you get to 0.5 cast speed for 3 sec cast, but as i know now it is like 84%? speed for 3s skill to be capped at 0.5. Then on w/m without skill like cathalysis i'm not sure if you reached this cap so easly

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I wrote a bit

I've been looking at these changes to mag dps for a few patches now and some of the changes are so badly missed.... So far I've played practically every mage combo except m/ch ( don't like rage combo XD), wrl/wd, wrl/r and d/wrl.

First of all general change on storm x2, in my opinion it doesn't weaken dps of mages on instance, because it's not main skill of aoe ( due to it has cd). You want to actually nerf the dps of mages change static field, which on every mage is the strongest aoe skill. Personally I think that this skill should get a mega nerf, because practically every mage has his individual aoe skill from elite skills, but in general it's not worth to use them ( except m/wd and m/d, because there you can use these skills practically simultaneously and m/k, which has aoe giving bonus to light).

Evaluating the recent m/d changes, of course they are all for a big +, but they don't make this combination suddenly the best mage ( hard to compete with a mega good m/s or m/wd). My bet is that he is currently somewhere on the level of m/r, meaning he will do good dps, but not the best of all mags. I'm waiting for m/p corrections, which has been forgotten a bit????

I kinda don't understand forumers who say that d/wrl is weaker than mages, I walk around with it quite often, and after the recent changes ( where we can practically keep 20 points of nature all the time) and strengthening the dmg from poison, it makes a very good dps. ( well and it is in my opinion the perfect combination for beginner magic dps, because it has very much mattu ). I haven't played d/r yet, but seeing elite skills it seems to be such a druid equivalent of m/s in making dps.

For wrl/wd in my opinion nothing has changed after a few nerfs, continues to be a super combination with good dps overall. Changes on wrl/r all for +, but to play it well in ROFL, we need a w/p in the team to not die from aoe trash skills.

And then there's that w/m XDD. A combination that is in my opinion the weakest magic dps because there are no specific reinforcements on it. You changed that skills don't cause gcd, increased aoe ranges, cast time of 1 skill to 1 second. Everything is fine, but why do these skills still hit from wind instead of fire>???? I think that 1h weapon+ talisman combination is meant for w/m only we have one small problem here. Talisman only amplifies fire damage, where on w/m fire damage is dealt by white attack and 1 skill. Everything else deals wind damage. Personally I would suggest changing the talisman ( that would be best) to give bonus to all element types, but I'm realistic and I'd rather see a change that all w/m skills deal fire damage ( it's a bit weird to introduce 2 elemental dmg without giving bonus to any element, like on mages)

Finally I would like to add my idea. We have many set skills which are duplicated ( some even repeat 3 times). A lot of skills are unchanged and give ridiculous bonuses like magic accuracy. Maybe it is worth to change weaker equivalents of set skils and introduce skills for those unusual combinations like magic warrior, magic/physical beating druid, physical beating priest, healing sorcerer etc.The game only starts on the final instances anyway and low level skills are only pulled by collectors, and so there would be more interest.

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Hi,

1 hint. W/M is played with 2h. The auto attacks does not do the most damage anymore. Furthermore you need castspeed on this class instead of attack speed

Greetings

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Well maybe it needs more testing but as you mentioned castspeed is important, so wand+tali allows you to have 2x curse XIII. Then i'm not sure about 2h being beter than 1h + tali

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(the following is based on my subjective experience through my guild internal rofl runs)

TL;DR

The patch was particularly fine, but turned the mage balancing in the wrong direction. This may result into a huge mage nerf, that should have been prevented by adapting the classes on the right way. Now we got a new mage meta.

First, thanks for the Scout/Warlock nerf, that was needed. I very much appreciate listening to us in that topic.

Also it's nice to see a champ buff again, since warrior was overperforming over champ a bit. Now the champ will be much better by far, but we're already used to the 2-weeks-rotation of strongest classes, so thats okay to me.

Unfortunately there was no tank related adaption, which feels a bit sad, but okay, there are other classes having a higher prio I guess.

The druid/mage and druid/warlock are btw still lacking in singletarget and are very strong in AoE, nothing changed for them. So maybe the adaption could be rated as useless, but we will see what may come in the next days.

BUT what the hell did you do with the mages? Mage/Druid and Mage/Rogue were alredy pretty imbalanced and now you just made them op. These two combos were (mostly) the best (magical) classes for AoE overall damage in rofl and now you just added a decent burst to them. Even the (still op) Warlock/Warden hasn't reached that damage level yet. By eliminating the only weakness of the classes, you created a real monster. But maybe this is intended, idk what you guys planned for the future.

I also don't understand why you're nerfing all the classes in one patch and 2 patches later bring out op classes again, that deal even more damage than already existing op classes (like wl/wd, wl/s, d/r, etc). Now we need a definition of classes that are above of op... maybe "op plus"? I mean, do you plan to nerf all classes again in 2 months? If yes, the changes should be fine, else I don't understand this at all (anymore).

If I knew that you plan to introduce such op mages, I would have never complained about the Scout/Warlock, which now - post-patch - should be lacking in dps compared with the new/"op plus" classes.

I compared M/D today in rofl with my Wl/Wd and the AoE dmg was much higher and the single target sustain too. Only single target burst was still better on Wl/Wd, but overall M/D could have beaten Wl/Wd, but he died for 50% of the time and I was called 5 times at b3, so it was quite close in the overall dmg... Oh and hey, WlWd is still op, but M/D is a doubled WlWd (in terms of dps).

I mean, M/D is op as hell now, it's like the pre 10.4.0.4 M/Wd but now all the weaknesses are gone. Maybe add another passive that reduces incoming damage by 90% additionally? That would make the class complete, so it doesn't die anymore. (just trolling, please don't do that...you can't be sure these days I guess...)

In the end, I smell a huge mage nerf coming in 2-3 weeks, which makes primary mage useless again, but we're already prepared and used to that as well, since we still have the good old warlocks. Maybe a warlock raid makes sense then.

Also I would like to suggest again, to increase the aggro of Willpower Construct on Wl/Wd from 75% to 100%, the class is doing a great job so far as a tank (and seems to be one of the most viable tanks out there, bcz it prevents the raid of dying on big pulls) but is lacking in sustain aggro a bit. Especially if mages have more than 10% aggro, it's a bit difficult on some situations to keep aggro without stressing.

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First of all, I can't comment on Mage/Rogue yet because I haven't played him yet. I agree that the Scout/Wl nerf was well deserved (that class overperformed way too much).

And the following statement is simply what I've seen and can report from our rofl runs. That beiing said...

I completly disagree on the whole "Mage/Druid" is OP, mages in general are OP topic. Mage/Druid had really, really bad aoe damage, compared to other aoe mage combinations such as /warden /priest and YES even /knight. While I agree that the burst damage was buffed (Thanks for that) this class still deals very little damage compared to other mdps. And compared to pdps its even worse. I didn't stand a chance (burst and aoe) to Scouts /Rogues other mages (with worse gear) and thankfully there was no Champion dps.

Also if you wanna compare this class to an "op" mdps, don't choose wl/wd. Wl/wd hasn't been OP since several patches ago (which is why everybody was playing wl/scout).

Anyway, this is just my point of view.

Greetings.

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Well it's simillar when it comes to my experience, yet i never felt like my m/d was underperforming even before latest changes. I was few times as m/d with my guild and it was rly good, maybe not as powerfull as m/s but not much worse, i think it could be close or sligtly worse than m/wd.

What i think is that curent aoe dmg based content makes all mages quite powerfull (some more than others but it probably depends on raid playstyle). To be honest i don't think that is something bad, yet i'm not sure what would be good solution for this, becouse if future give us more single taget content all classes that was "OP" will be underperforming.

For now i just want to see all mdps classes to be pleasant and joyfull to play. What i experienced so far we have not that bad balance between "Mage" mainclasses:
(my opinion): top dps: m/s, m/ch, m/wd, m/d. nice dps + insane support: m/wrl. Nice dps + good support: m/r. *Meh*dps: m/p, m/k, m/w?(don't have swap gear).
I didn't put here other magical combos purposely, bec wanted to just show "MagePOV"

Well so as we see we have only 3 ot of 9? mage classes that can be seen as "bad ones". Of course i DEPENDS on own and raid playstyle as i mentioned before. But i think we should just try not to destroy this state by trying to improve our prefered class combo.

I am big fan of lowering overall dmg output, but i am bigest fan of giving well deserved buffs as well as nerfs for separate class combos

Thanks and don't cry about nerfs becouse it can always be worse

In terms of lowering best mages combos dmg output i suggest : (i'm not best at ingame math so those numbers might not be best :P)

In mage/scout lower "Elemental Catalysis" mdmg gain from 70% to maybe like 50%?

In mage/champion lower "Ion Storm" dmg dealt, and also Wind dmg boosts gained by "Voltage Influx" (from 18% to maybe 10%) and "Electrostatic Charge" (from 10% to 5%)

in mage/warden lower "Earth Groaning Wind Blade" dmg output, or increase "Earth Core Barrier" CD to 3 min.

Those skills i feel are good playce to do adjustments. Maybe values are wrong, maybe some skills are more influent at combo gameplay, but i think we should try to lower those specific combos dmg, just to make space for other mages, and to make those not that op

Kind Regards

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Mage

• Reduced Thunderstorm damage to 2511 from 2737.

I don't understand these kinds of general nerfs out of nowhere. Mages aren't balanced between their combos. Nerf a random skill for all of them makes no sense to me.

That's 100% true statement, currently we have like 3 or 4? mage classes that need individual nerf are m/s, m/ch, m/wd, and maybe m/d?

other mages like m/p, m/k, m/wrl, m/w, are waaay less powerfull than top4.

So maybe instead of nerfing them all, try to make all combos pleasant to play?

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yea i gues no matter what we say , nothing will change sence gms and developers only listens to people who brings most money. and the rest of us who dont bring much or some thet are free to play no one listens to. i gues i l just shut my mouth and move on to another server or keep what i think to my self thets last comment from me...

well i didn't put any real money into game, i get to endgame thanks to my giuldmates, and my own "skills". I like those changes and even few of changes in the past (i believe) was made becouse i asked for them in balance thread.
So as you see it have nothing to do about "giving money" or not. It is all about self-criticism and giving well tought out arguments.