Dalanis Nightmare and Aoth quests

Looking for suggestions from players and admin about this instance.

We are a fairly small underpowered guild and go to Dalanis Nightmare to try do those quests for the rings. Often, people are in before us and close the instance.

There appears to be three main issues with this:

1. The quest items (rings) are very expensive. Players who close the instance can monopolise highly valued items. Currently, these items are over 35,000 diamonds in the auction,
2. Closing the instance affects everybody else on the server. Other people may be prone to close it themselves knowing others want to do it first, and
3. When the instance is open, it benefits those who are awake - for some, the instance opens at 3-4am and would therefore be unreasonable to try to do.

About a week ago, the leaders of some of the main guilds placed a world chat advising they agreed not to close the instance. This clearly isn't happening.

I am therefore wondering if some kind of modification could occur. My suggestion follows.

The instance does not "close". Instead, the players in the party that "closes" it are locked out until after daily reset, similar to Hall of Survival normal - it can be done only once. if the party does not "close" it, they can continue to farm the instance.

Any thoughts on how to improve the situation will be appreciated. Just in our guild there are many who want this instance and it will take a long time to get the items for everybody. If the instance is constantly closed, we - and other players - have no options.

I look forward to any solutions and discussions. This is by no means a whinge but a concern that affects many of us and a proactive attempt to remedy the issue.

Thanks for reading.

Thanks for clarifying that point. Seemed like it was announced a week ago: time flies!

That's disappointing. Making something difficult to do is very different to making it impossible.

The thread is eight months old and the issue still exists (Dalanis Nightmare).

I hope the players who have the opportunity to do DN collaborate. Some of our guild got stones in the "treaty" which leaves the rest of us without.

It isn't, Wargod. Clearly. Otherwise I wouldn't post. I assume your guild closes it, probably recently. How ... convenient for you to not want to change the mechanics.

This thread is about solutions for people to effectively do the quest, especially if undergeared, and not about players maximising their profits. I wonder what camp you fit in.

Solutions will be nice.

I take it you're both in good guilds with good equipment.

I don't respect your opinion or Warbog. It's very clearly self-preservational and one assumes persons are farming and closing to the detriment of others. No angst against anybody, so have my virtual high five.

As I say: this thread is a solution thread for myself and others Not sure why people posting here can't grasp the concept. Please post solutions here, not self-serving opinions about those closing the instance so they can improve wealth to the detriment of others.

To summarise, suggestions about how the situation can be improved for people following the quest line will be appreciated. This is not a post for wealthy self-serving characters to deny change for others.

Being selfish has nothing to do with it. I have no idea how you reached that conclusion. There's no need for below-the-belt cheap shots.

People are entitled to an opinion; doesn't make it right or wrong. I see no value in what has preceded this post. No need for people to be inflammatory for a genuine discussion. It will be appreciated if people will cease being derogatory and making assumptions then crying about no respect.

I see no practical solutions on the subject matter. This thread is not about the status quo.

Please, before posting, be considerate to my original post with a view to solutions. I do not believe the status quo is a solution. I look forward to a positive discussion.

Wargod and others that are "pro-DN status quo", please stop trolling me and this thread.

This is a bona-fide issue for players. This post was created because many in the guild I was in had the issue, and I stood up for our view in this public place. They were aware of the thread when I put it in guild chat yesterday, and if they don't want to post here, it doesn't mean the issue isn't there as well as for others.

The only handouts I have ever asked for is information on how to play. In every instance I've gone on with the guild and others I've received nothing out of it - NOTHING, not even one drop of gear, one stone - absolutely zero. And you believe I'm in it for handouts.

The instance is hard because IT'S CONSISTENTLY CLOSED, ergo this thread.

ps, Wargod, your comments are without basis and also inflammatory. I ask you
to stop trolling and stay on topic about a resolution. If I remember
correctly Wargod, more than once I've bought gear from you and your
guildies for gold because they made errors by not listing them as
diamonds. Other than when I first started playing, I did not keep them. I
gave them back. Even that first time I resolved to fix it up, but your
general nastiness changed my mind that once. How you treated me when I was learning was awful and for no reason you're being
nasty again. Please stop. I don't understand why you come across like
you do against me. I've never done you wrong, in fact, giving you your stuff back is me giving handouts to you.